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I have heard Englishmen refer to their illegitimate children as a "bastard child," but never heard a word that the children would use for their father; "bastard father" might be logical. Is there any word for this relationship? Dgsen Miami
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I've seen the term babydaddy used recently for an absentee father.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Welcome dg
Maybe this could be of some help
http://onelook.com/?w=*&loc=revfp2&clue=unwed+father
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I think that the lack of name is reflective of the fact that there was a stigma to the child but not to the father. Personally I can think of a few names. Doesn't babyfather refer to the youth of the parent?
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Isn't bastard child a tautology? My understanding is that bastard means "child born out of wedlock" (or at least some recognisable, formalised relationship).
The father would be a fornicator (if the neither parent was married) or an adulterer (if one of them was (or both were but not to each other)). Similarly, the mother would be a fornicatrix or an adulteress. Neither of these terms differentiate those unions that result in a child from those that don't, and I have no idea if such terms exist.
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Isn't bastard also used as a sort of adjective like "the Bastard King"? "child born out of wedlock" Whenever I see the word 'wedlock' I hear chains rattling.
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Isn't bastard child a tautology? My understanding is that bastard means "child born out of wedlock" (or at least some recognisable, formalised relationship). Willy the Bastard wasn't a child when he came stomping in to England polluting our pure language.
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I think that the lack of name is reflective of the fact that there was a stigma to the child but not to the father. Personally I can think of a few names. Doesn't babyfather refer to the youth of the parent? Yes, Zed, and how sexist is that?! The mother certainly suffers stigmatization... And no, "babydaddy" is as in "my baby['s] daddy", no reference to age.
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Do not 'bastard' children refer to their father as my 'natural father' and 'biolological father' or is this about the 'single-word-straitjacket' again?
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what's a one word synonym for "single-word-straitjacket'"?
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