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to say nothing of Native American slaves
The English and the USans tended towards policies of assimilation, isolation, and extermination of Native Americans. The Spanish tended towards conversion and enslavement in their sphere of influence.
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to say nothing of Native American slaves
The English and the USans tended towards policies of assimilation, isolation, and extermination of Native Americans. The Spanish tended towards conversion and enslavement in their sphere of influence. And the said presidio mentioned above in said pre-l850 state, among others enslaved many in their 'missions', called 'assimilation'.
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And the said presidio mentioned above in said pre-l850 state, among others enslaved many in their 'missions', called 'assimilation'.
The Presidio was run by the Spanish and then the Mexican State, being staffed with military. The Missions were run by the Church and staffed Franciscans. Both used slave labor. Mariano Vallejo, the Mexican military commandant of Northern California, and later a California senator, ran a huge hacienda near Petaluma that used many Native Americans as slave labor. I believe he got them after they had been rounded up in the missions in San Rafael and Sonoma, baptized, and then farmed out. I'm not sure that they used the term assimilation, but perhaps conversation.
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Basically whoever wins enslaves the losers, well the surviving losers, and calls it assimilating/civilizing/converting. It ain't new; Romans did it, Native American tribes did it, Brits did it, MacDonald's does it.
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[quote] And the said presidio mentioned above in said pre-l850 state, among others enslaved many in their 'missions', called 'assimilation'.
The Presidio was run by the Spanish and then the Mexican State, being staffed with military. The Missions were run by the Church and staffed Franciscans. Both used slave labor. Mariano Vallejo, the Mexican military commandant of Northern California, and later a California senator, ran a huge hacienda near Petaluma that used many Native Americans as slave labor. I believe he got them after they had been rounded up in the missions in San Rafael and Sonoma, baptized, and then farmed out. I'm not sure that they used the term assimilation, but perhaps conversation. [/quote
] And the assembly line notwithstanding. Sweat shops. And the things Zed mentions. And some Native American enslaved others. All nations are guilty somehow, it seems.
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All nations are guilty someho
Yes, man is a miscreant at best. A misanthropist at worst.
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