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#174046 02/26/08 01:31 PM
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Etymology of "box" related to Pandora.
The original Greek word used was pithos which is a large jar.

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The mistranslation of pithos as "box" is usually attributed to the 16th century humanist Erasmus of Rotterdam when he translated Hesiod's tale of Pandora into Latin. Hesiod's pithos refers to a storage jar for oil or grain. Erasmus, however, translated pithos into the Latin word pyxis, meaning "box".[1] The phrase "Pandora's box" has endured ever since. This misconception was futher backed by Dante Gabriel Rossetti's painting 'Pandora'.

Blame or shame on my otherwise much admired long gone fellow country-man, if this is true.


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Interesting word box. It comes from Late Latin buxus from Greek πυξις (puksis) '(cosmetic) box', which in turn is related to πυξος (puksos) 'boxwood tree', which also made it's way into Latin as buxus, and then into English as box in the sense of the tree. Pandora's name means 'all giving' in Greek.


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and buxom?


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Yes, interesting, but it takes years of grows to get a buxus as far as giving sufficient wood to make even a very small box.
If the mistake in translation is true (I got it from wikiP) and then I Googled Pandora's box - images, all those box related items (8.630.000) are mistakes too. Even though the variety is interesting.

And if I read well- out of the box came besides all evils of the world also - hope.

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Seems to be: link and link.


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and buxom?

Seems not (link).


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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
and buxom?

Seems not (link).


thanks.

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Pandora's name means 'all giving' in Greek.


all-giving box, eh?


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all-giving box, eh?

Maybe Rasmus was on to something. Oh, those Dutch humanists.


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What's a humanist?

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What's a humanist?


wikipedia on Humanism

some smart folks.


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