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belMarduk #172640 01/18/08 01:01 AM
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That is cute. I like it!

IIRC, an old Greek said something similar.


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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
That is cute. I like it!

IIRC, an old Greek said something similar.


Mr Angelopoulous, the owner of the butcher shop up our street?

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Mr Angelopoulous

Funny, I thought it was Mr Aristotle of Stageira in that funny greengrocer's pamphlet of his yclept Nicomachean Ethics. But, I think you're right. Mr Aristotle said "one swallow does not a Spring make". My bad. BTW, this is the same shmate in which the word επιχαιρεκακια (epikhairekakia) 'schadenfreude' first saw the light o' day.


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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
Mr Aristotle said "one swallow does not a Spring make".


Probably get confused in English during that period when Lent had been taken over by the religious season and spring had not yet become the replacement word. We used summer to refer to both spring and summer.

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Maybe because, unlike in the Mediterranian regions, spring and summer of the temparate climat are not that clearly distinguishable? From around May we could call the season summer.
Eén zwaluw maakt nog geen zomer. Identical to the English expression.

(meaning in summer there may be still be spring's temp. and in spring summer's, while in Greece the summers are blazing hot.)

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(Classical) Greek has words for spring, εαρ (ear < PIE *wes-r- 'spring, cf. Latin ver, Sanskrit vasanta, Old Irish errach 'spring', Old English had lencten whence Lent < PIE *del- 'long', also English long, per Faldonem supra), and summer θερος (theros).

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Even as when the daughter of Pandareus, the nightingale of the greenwood, sings sweetly, when spring is newly come, as she sits perched amid the thick leafage of the trees, and with many trilling notes pours forth her rich voice in wailing for her child, dear Itylus, whom she had one day slain with the sword unwittingly, Itylus, the son of king Zethus. (Homer, Odyssey, xix:520ff.)


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You are giving away some beautiful quotes these days!
Sad nightingale though.

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per Faldonem supra)


Faldo, Faldonis? 3rd declension?

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Faldo, Faldonis? 3rd declension?

Yes, that's how I felt it. Kind of like Plato, Platonis. If I have erred, PM me, and we can work out your declensional niceties.


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Works for me. I never thought about it before. I will PM you my real Latin name and we can work some kinks out of that one.

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