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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 2 1 2 Omnibus umbra locis adero #170361 10/04/07 03:19 PM Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 631 Hydra OP addict OP Hydra addict Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 631 Quote: Omnibus umbra locis adero Could someone please translate this for me? Thanks. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero Hydra #170364 10/04/07 03:38 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Is this from your Anatomy of Melancholy? I found this, which translates all four lines: "Omnibus umbra locis adero: dabis improbe poenas." "My angry ghost arising from the deep, Shall haunt thee waking, and disturb thy sleep; At least my shade thy punishment shall know, And Fame shall spread the pleasing news below." http://infomotions.com/etexts/gutenberg/dirs/1/0/8/0/10800/10800.htm Last edited by AnnaStrophic; 10/04/07 03:40 PM. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero AnnaStrophic #170365 10/04/07 04:05 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh "As a shade will I be present unto thee in all places." Translated by Charles Anthon here. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero zmjezhd #170368 10/04/07 05:01 PM Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 631 Hydra OP addict OP Hydra addict Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 631 Yes, it is from the Anatomy AnnaStrophic, and that (My angry, etc) is how Burton renders it. It just didn't look the same, somehow. Poetic licence, I guess. Thanks for that, zmjezhd. What is "adero" ? Present? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero Hydra #170371 10/04/07 05:14 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh What is "adero" ? Present? Latin adsum (adesse, adfui) 'to be near, be present, be at hand'. Adero is the first person future indicative active form of the verb, 'I will be present'. [Corrected English gloss.] Last edited by zmjezhd; 10/04/07 05:49 PM. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero zmjezhd #170372 10/04/07 05:43 PM Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 557 Dallas, TX M Myridon addict Myridon addict M Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 557 Dallas, TX If it's adesse, then adero is plain future, the future perfect active indicative of adesse should be adfuero. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero Myridon #170373 10/04/07 05:51 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh If it's adesse, then adero is plain future, the future perfect active indicative of adesse should be adfuero. I did not suggest that it was the future perfect form, but I did incorrectly gloss it as the present. Sorry for the confusion. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero zmjezhd #170374 10/04/07 06:12 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague >>"As a shade will I be present unto thee in all places." Woowh, pretty lugubrious, but a nice phrase. Curious as ever I clicked your link and as the first of some keywords this one: zumpt [ Key words and phrases: zumpt, nec minus, aenean, quae nunc, divom, neque enim, agmina, genus omne, moenia, quae sit, fatur, (directions regarding), turnus, quin etiam, octavianus, julius caesar, octavianus caesar, cisalpine gaul, augustus caesar, asinius pollio ] When I clicked 'zumpt' I got the word in the text, but was send from one zumpt to the next one with : "see: zumpt, page nr.next. Would you know what it means? It seems such a non Latin word. I'm really curious, if that counts. I tried to find a translation of the word on quite a number of Latin translation sites , but nothing matched. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero BranShea #170378 10/04/07 06:35 PM Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,290 R'lyeh I clicked your link and as the first of some keywords this one: zumpt You talking to me!? I'm not sure what you mean. When I click on the link, I go to a Google digitized book with no zumpts in sight ... There was a German Latinist named Zumpt. Mayhaps and perchance you got caught in a localous-temporal anomaly. Ceci n'est pas un seing. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero zmjezhd #170381 10/04/07 07:33 PM Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague BranShea Carpal Tunnel BranShea Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,295 Netherlands, the Hague Just found it by means of Wordweb. Zumpt is a surname, and may refer to: Karl Gottlob Zumpt (1792-1894), German classical scholar August Wilhelm Zumpt (1815-1887), nephew of Karl, also a scholar Fritz Konrad Ernst Zumpt (1908-1985), German entomologist. Yet I don't think it's such a zumpteous word. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: Omnibus umbra locis adero BranShea #170513 10/10/07 02:12 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Branny, I didn't see zumpt, nor anything listed as "Keywords" at all. Is your computer set to having everything in English? If not, is it a word in Dutch or whatever language it's set to show? 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