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#1636 - 04/27/00 09:32 PM Redundancies
pieman Offline
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I'll keep trying to think of some redundant acronyms, but in the meantime between time here are some plain old redundancies.

underground tunnel
fasten together
brief synopsis

Can we brainstorm for a few more?

Apple


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#1637 - 04/28/00 10:02 AM Re: Redundancies
pieman Offline
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How about "inner core".
I heard that one one the radio this morning.

Pumpkin


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#1638 - 04/29/00 03:28 AM Re: Redundancies
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I think my (least) favourite is "forward planning".

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#1639 - 04/30/00 06:14 AM Redundancies
tututu Offline
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As opposed to oxymorons: which are more fun to find.
fresh frozen
friendly fire
Christian Scientists
rap music
plastic silverware
sweet sorrow
and peace force....

But back to the original topic....
The KGB group: Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti


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#1640 - 04/30/00 06:23 AM Re: Redundancies
tututu Offline
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You are all way too serious. Words are the most fun I have....

I understand the government has assembled a Task Force on Amphibian Declines and Deformities (TADD) to investigate the deaths of frogs, toads and salamanders. At a recent meeting they took a survey---their first TADD poll.

So sorry...if demanded, I will refrain from further posts!
Who is your "resident alien" leader? Am I to be taken to task before the "word prefect"?

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#1641 - 05/01/00 12:56 AM Re: Redundancies
Bear Offline
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Re nonacronymic reduncancies: Have these two already been done to death here?

ATM machine
PIN number

(Granted, "PIN" is an acronym, but I'm not submitting the whole phrase as an acronymic redundancy.)



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#1642 - 05/08/00 03:08 PM Re: Redundancies
sholmes Offline
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One I grind my teeth to avoid commenting on is "hot water heater". One doesn't have to heat hot water!



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#1643 - 05/08/00 04:07 PM Re: Redundancies
Jackie Offline

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My least favorite is in the opposite direction of lusy's:
return back.


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#1644 - 05/09/00 03:15 AM Re: Redundancies
jmh Offline
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>plastic silverware
I've always found that strange. For non US readers - (silverware=cutlery), so our plastic cutlery (knives and forks, spoons) would be "silverware" - do you get free silverware in yoghurt pots?

Along the same lines - state room (on a boat) = cabin, I was expecting Louis XIV funiture and gold plating everywhere!

>fresh frozen
We were given some Betty Crocker cake mix which had "with artificial flavorings" proclaimed proudly across the pack

- we keep quiet about that kind of thing here - it's usually buried deep in the small print.

>friendly fire
You can just see the smiles on their faces, can't you!

not quite oxymorons but along the same lines:
here:
>farm fresh eggs
= eggs from battery hens who have never set foot in a farm
> home made (on pub or service station menu)
re-heated frozen food, made in a factory






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#1645 - 05/10/00 02:32 PM Re: Oxymoron
David108 Offline
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I quail at "microwave safe", and of course the oldest of them all, "military intelligence".

When being given directions by someone I had to visit, I was told to approach a traffic circle, and make a 180 turn, to get to the other side of the median barrier before turning off the main road. The short version: "go back on yourself"!


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#1646 - 05/11/00 03:29 AM Re: Redundancies
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<plastic silverware>

Isn't it interesting how words always seem to be in danger of developing new, distorted and unwarranted meanings. (I'm a pedant from way back). I fear that glass is in great danger of becoming synonymous with "transparent drink container" as in the phrase "plastic glasses", which I heard used just the other day.


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#1647 - 05/11/00 08:16 AM Re: Redundancies
pieman Offline
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Well, the discussion about redundancies has shifted to one about oxymorons. But that's OK.
How's this one for ya: (this one falls under the redundancy catagory)

"buried beneath"


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#1648 - 05/11/00 02:45 PM Re: Redundancies/Oxymorons
jmh Offline
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I need an Aussie or Kiwi here.

A friend was living over there in the Antipodes.

She said she realised that fridges and kitchen appliances were called whiteware - are blue fridges called blue whiteware?

Also, linen was called Manchesterware - so you could buy Egyptian Manchesterware towels.

Is she right?


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#1649 - 05/12/00 03:56 AM Re: Redundancies/Oxymorons
David108 Offline
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Yes, here in New Zealand large appliances are called whiteware, regardless of their colour. The linen on one's bed is known as Manchester, as are the towels! Generic term. That's not unusual, as the same terms are used in South Africa. Go figure!


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#1650 - 05/12/00 04:44 AM Re: Wares
Philip Davis Offline
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White ware is a common term in the English trade for kitchen domestic appliances, black (or sometimes grey) ware is also used for non kitchen electrical goods. I don't know if beige ware was adopted as a generic term for computer hardware (I doubt it.). Also interesting is the occasional use of the term wetware to describe computer programmers or operators (those brains contain wet blood).

There's a zoo that has a pack of wolves. The leader of the pack is called Were (as in werewolf) but when I heard this I thought that the leader should be called Aware, the second in command Beware, the least furious software, the most furious hardware. Any further suggestions?


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#1651 - 05/12/00 07:53 AM Re: Wares
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the sleepiest wolf: una-ware
the one who puts on airs: De-la-ware
the one w/ the thickest fur: hotware
the one w/ the shiniest fur: silverware


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#1652 - 05/12/00 08:27 AM Re: Wares
jmh Offline
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You just never know where a subject can wander off to, do you???


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#1653 - 05/12/00 09:38 AM Re: Wares
Philip Davis Offline
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The one who puts the food away would be tupperware.


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#1654 - 05/12/00 10:12 AM Re: Wares
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I'm not even going to go where underwear and nowhere could lead....

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#1655 - 05/12/00 02:11 PM Re: Wares
David108 Offline
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The athletic one is sportswear.
Would the difficult wolf be hardware?



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#1656 - 05/12/00 02:45 PM Re: Wares
jmh Offline
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You are all so shallow!

I'm off to iron my Cruisewear!


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#1657 - 05/13/00 07:33 AM Re: Redundancies/Oxymorons
paulb Offline
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Loc: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Here in Aussie/Oz (whatever) we tend to call them 'whitegoods' rather than whiteware.


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#1658 - 05/13/00 01:07 PM Re: Wares
Jackie Offline

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JO!
You get to iron Tom Cruise's clothes??? (He's from here,
incidentally.) What does his under'wear' look like? I
take it back about not wanting to know what anyone
has in their drawers! Yee-ee-haw! (Oh, now I'm taking a
discussion downhill myself! Oh, the shame!)


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#1659 - 05/14/00 06:39 AM Re: Redundancies
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lusy said <I fear that glass is in great danger of becoming synonymous with "transparent drink container" as in the phrase "plastic glasses", which I heard used just the other day.>


In Indonesian "gelas" already means just that. Glass the substance is "kaca".





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#1660 - 05/14/00 09:23 AM Re: Redundancies
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<i>Bingley</i>

for italics, try using square brackets instead; markup is enabled here instead of HTML.

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#1661 - 05/14/00 02:10 PM Re: Redundancies
jmh Offline
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We also call spectacles glasses and these days they are often made of plastic, so that's another kind of plastic glasses.

I have no knowledge of Tom Cruise's underwear (Jackie, I'm shocked, I thought you were such a nice girl).


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