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Earlier this morning accessing WS, selecting a forum, and picking up specific thread, took forever; The problem didn't happen invoking other sites and so I am wondering if anyone else had the same experience
If so it was no doubt attributable to a software glitch entailing exquisite timing, eg, in which a specific instruction propagated on the Web travels in circles until it finally reaches its destination. Typically it may take as long as 5 minutes to get a single response while a couple of the little green rectangles languish in the box at the bottom of the screen
I have long suspected the phenom was created by our White Knight in order to torment us from time to time so we thereby come to better appreciate His works
So I have coined the term "Gates Loop" to describe it. Do you have a better term
But it has to include "Gates." Another example of the Gates Loop, of which there are hundreds, if not thousands, is the deletion of your followup--while you are actually in the process of composing it--but pause a couple of minutes for instance to go look up a word
Perhaps the Gates Loop is also responsible for the continual and repeated appearance of "Warning: Page has Expired" message again and again, over and over, that so very much slows our navigation through a board
More such examples welcome
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I've seen this board be extremely slow quite frequently. Don't see that any Gate has anything to do with it.
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Fal: Sorry if my inference wasn't immediately obvious. I use "Gates" as a kind of symbol standing for everything wrong in the world of software
Its just persiflage
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yes dale we know, you have a single minded obsession with mr gates.
and no, most of us don't share it, nor do we want to.
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FTR, I had trouble both getting here and changing pages yesterday morning, too.
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From Arnie, a true expert upon matters technical, at a board that must remain nameless for reasons of porotocol:
Tim Berners-Lee invented the Internet, not Bill Gates.
There are all sorts of reasons why a particular site is temporarily slow, but the most common is that one (sometimes more) server on your route to the site is having problems. Your message to the site's server goes through a number of 'hops' to reach it and return, and if there are any problems on the way the site will be slow. Somebody else using a different ISP will take a different route and not have any problems. Usually the operators of the malfunctioning router will quickly discover the problem and it'll be taken out of service or fixed fairly quickly, but sometimes the problem can go on for several hours or even days.
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Tim Berners-Lee invented the Internet, not Bill Gates.
Now there you go again, Dale, spreading dysinformation about the Web, the Net, and all things IT. As I said on the Board that dare not speak its name because of the Imaginary Hileman Protocol, Mr Berners-Lee did not invent the Internet. He invented the Web in 1991. You may want to read a book by M Mitchell Waldrop, Dream Machines: J C R Licklider and the Revolution That Made Computing Personal, 2001. It's available in paperback and is a fun and compelling read. It might help to set you straight on the history of personal computing.
[Fixed title of book.]
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Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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zm: Thank you for that
But the protocol isn't imaginary. I've been raked over the coals in more than one instance at more than one board for mentioning or even providing a link to another such board. Each has its own protocol or sensitivities while raillery is often misinterpreted as hostility
For instance, one banned me for using the term "offshore" referring to the Continent; another accused me in no uncertain terms of "persiflage" (encouraged at one site but despised at another). I was suspended from a third for using the term "Muslim" in connection with terrorism. Board A encourages the use of the tilde (~ as in all the dictionaries) while Board B decries it, threatening banishment
In still another instance I was resoundingly berated for starting a thread but then not participating in its subsequent progress. Heavens, but I had no idea it was required
As I subscribe to a half-dozen such boards, I have six sets of rules to observe, and admittedly I get them mixed up. Worse yet, somestimes two different administrators at a single site will have conflicting rules, esp in the case of two boards which for reasons of protocol and mutual antagonism I cannot specify
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Since the others have already taken care of Gates, I was considering taking on loop, but I've decided that I'm just so glad that you didn't say algorithm that I'm going to leave it alone. ;-)
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Apparently I need some synonyms for algorithm
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> Gates loop
I dunno, I kinda like it.
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I dunno about all of that stuff Dale but as to alluding to other boards, I have to admit that it gets a little annoying. Even that little two-step you like to do; the "I'm not going to mention the other place because people don’t want me to", is getting a little tiresome.
It's a shame because you bring up interesting topics and points, but the constant comments make you seem immature; it has an aura of petulance, an "Oh ya, well I'll talk about it anyway and they can't say I am because I'm not using the name" thumbing of the nose to the group.
It is disrespectful, like putting your feet up on the table in somebody else's home when you've been asked not to. And based on the post you just made, the other boards seem to find your "other board" hyping tiresome too.
I imagine it is habit, like somebody you're talking with that constantly says, "my sister said this" or "yes, but my sister thinks that" instead of speaking from their own experience.
This might sound surprising, but I'm interested in what you have to say.
I am, on the other hand, not interested one whit in what some other person, on some other board, has to say.
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bel: Yea, it's persiflage and I'm guilty. Terrible habit, hard to break. Incorrigible
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Persiflage - light teasing - sounds very flowery (as in "I'll have those white lillies, and oh, can you add a bit of persiflage for colour?"). I had to look it up since it's not the most common word here in French Québec. O.k., I'll take it as that. I know I've got bad habits that are hard to break (I feel my Hubby nodding emphatically at that one, as I chatter happlily over breakfast and he needs a coffee in him before he's in any mood for a conversation.  )
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> persiflage
makes me think of mucilage, Elmer.
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I wasn't familiar with it either until just recently. It's an escellent expr and so now in order to firmly establish it in my vocabulary I drop it anywhere it seems to fit
Neither was Laverne. She said it sounds like a huge conflagration
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conflagration
HA! That is oddly akin to my thinking it sounds like a flower - both of them need to be watered.
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bel: So do I, about four times a week
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As I subscribe to a half-dozen such boards, I have six sets of rules to observe, and admittedly I get them mixed up. Worse yet, somestimes two different administrators at a single site will have conflicting rules, esp in the case of two boards which for reasons of protocol and mutual antagonism I cannot specify
Amazing! How do you find the time to water your flowers 4 times a week? This allright ? Thanks! Learning all the time.
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BranShea, I think you meant to attribute the quotation in your entry to Dale, not me.
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And I believe it's Dale who needs to be watered so he can stay at his computer -- not the flowers. 
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BranShea, I think you meant to attribute the quotation in your entry to Dale, not me.
Yeh, the modest little zm:lettering; I must have overlooked it.How could I? May I dedicate this clarifying quote to you now?
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Bran: Not my flowers I water but me
Anna: It's possible to water oneself at the keyboard and thus there's time for both pleasant pasttimes
Tuesday is especially jolly when I allow myself three brews, no doubt accounting in some cases for the persiflage
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Speak of the Devil. I never had any trouble with this board being slow. But now it fails doing what I had in mind. I drew a nice red keyboard-typo dahlia to send to ZM , as Dale does not give his attention undevided to his flowers 4 times a week. But I get what this thread was about to begin with. Run out pages and obstructions to move to the next page. * (sorry, tiny symbolic flower then.)
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Draw peonies instead. If you take care of the peolies the dahlias take care of themselves.
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Draw peonies instead. If you take care of the peolies the dahlias take care of themselves.
Nah, I think I'll try the peolies first. 
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Tim Berners-Lee invented the Internet, not Bill Gates.
Several years ago (during the big Technology boom) I worked for a huge telecommunications company. We built and sold the equipment that carries all the Internet traffic. {Cisco claimed to carry 95% of all Internet traffic. In reality, if the Internet is viewed as a superhighway, Cisco has many of the toll booths. We built the 8 lane highway and rest stops}
Being involved in the technical aspects of all this brought me to an important realization.
Al Gore has been reputed as trying to accept credit for INVENTING THE INTERNET. And, I think it is true. If you consider the equipment that carries Internet traffic (the core of the Internet; the equipment with which I worked) governs and controls Internet packets via complex
Mathematical Al-Gore-Rythms
Proof positive!
{As I am new here, please, please, please forgive the bad pun. I am particularly proud of that one because it is original}
"I am certain there is too much certainty in the world" -Michael Crichton
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Geez, PT, it's not original! Independent discovery on your part, maybe.
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Independent discovery on your part, maybe.
Either a case of great minds etc. or the infinite number of monkeys etc.
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[purple]As I am new here, please, please, please forgive the bad pun. I am particularly proud of that one because it is original[/purple]
Now now, youngsters, let's give the Newbie a break - we can use another punster if for no other reason than to challenge Ted to even greater heights.
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just a reminder (and moreso for the newbies), a long string of extraneous characters (such as B(ran)S's yellow virgules above) will cause some folks' windows to go wide (generating scroll bars to view the entire thread!).
the same thing will happen with long URLs, a good reason to learn how to use the insert URL funcion.
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Sorry Tswum, sounds frightening. I won't do it again. Totally ignorant
of technical implications.I'll be careful.
And Anna: I did not mean to nitpick. I really didn't know the word.
It was just a typo.
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Sorry Tswum, sounds frightening. I won't do it again. Totally ignorant
of technical implications.I'll be careful.
it's only an annoyance, but you can fix this instance by editing your post above. 
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... if for no other reason than to challenge Ted to even greater heights.
Heights? This is obviously some definition of "heights" of which I was previously unaware.
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Dear ParkinT,
I hope you take our ribbing with grain of salt. I know that in the past our teasing has been misunderstood. We wouldn't tease you if we didn't like you. Instead, no comments would be made or we would tell you you are burdensome. [blowing kisses-e]
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