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it's been a while since we've talked about "l337", and this wikipedia articcle offers some very interesting observations about its development and usage, so I thought it would be fun to share: L33t5p34kthere's also a lot to be found by following some of the various word links, such as "pwn", and "teh". having three boys I hear this spoken quite a bit, along with other game-specific language. don't get pwnzored! 
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Hilda! More to read!
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Leet has its basis in written communication over electronic media. Most simply, it has evolved as a way of forming exclusive cliques in on-line communities, notably Bulletin Board Systems and online multiplayer games (see Examples of Leet in videogaming).
Although it probably has it's origin as a way of simplifying input, no?
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I think most generations create slangs and idioms that set them apart from their parents or younger siblings (ironically, they prove their individuality by being all the same). It seems to follow that in the electronic age came electronic slang.
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Strange. Our Warehouse in Alabama is one of a hundred or so General Electric Distribution locations nationwide. GE has chosen to designate our location "1337". All of GE's correspondence with us is prefixed with "1337". I wonder if I should be offended. 
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"The exact reasons for the obfuscation of text with Leet are disputed, but the most probable reason is that hackers needed to communicate without outsiders being able to intercept the message..."
This statement is by all means false. I'm sure you will all agree that in any generation(excluding those without means of a vocal or written langauge) have changed the way to say things, either in pronunciation of it or the way of which it is displayed, for reasons to make themselves look 'cool' or be origional. Hackers more just encrypt or lock their messages if we are talking about computer or software hackers. For online gamers, they either just lie or say they do hack and crash the server. Most people in the gaming scene knew then and most knows now what 1337 was and is. Hackers would have commuicated before or during(with the help of such programs as Xfire, and VoIP programs as in Ventrilo and TeamSpeack RC2 ect..) the game play and would never have to code any text.
What do you guys think? Most of my stuff is opinionated yes, but do you really think that hackers needed such code words?
Excerpt taken from site that was provided about leetspeak.
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> This statement is by all means false.
I agree. I think the idea of just trying to be different is sufficient for the development of l337.
opinionate away, Ari!
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I think the reason it's used is to express being part of the cool group. To me it always seems like they're trying too hard. I thought this sort of language is used mostly by hacker groupies.
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It is not, it is used widespread in the gaming community by hackers and non-hackers alike. I use it, and most refer to it as leet or 1337. Example: If they see a cool move or somthing they like, anything, it doenst even have to be online. They would say "That's leet." "Leet haxor" is still used but mainly as a joke. Its just only text and a way of speaking. I don't suppose any of you know what Purepwnage is? It is two things; one, a slang term pwn being the same but more recent version of own; two, a online series of shows. The site link for the show is: http://www.purepwnage.com/ I recommend watching it. Not only is it funny, but can give you an idea of how these terms were used. Most are real terms, but some I never heard of either. Heres the an excerpt off the main page: Quote:
"i pwn noobs liek hard rite n my roomate has dis camera rite so hes all liek 'we can make a show lol' n im liek dats teh pwnage n stuf n hes liek i no lol so im liek ok film me noob n hes liek ok so we did lololol
thne we lukd at it rite n were liek 'omfg stfu dats pure pwnage lol' so we made dis site n stuf rite n now were gonna b famose!!!!
-teh_pwnerer"
That's over doing it there but you get the idea. Im sure some of you will be disgusted with the grammar and spelling here, but keep in mind its all on purpose most of the time, not out of ignorance(I can't speak for everyone on that point). As I was saying I could refer to this show being 'leet'.
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without outsiders being able to intercept the message
To many outside of the group, a jargon (or sociolect) appears to be for purposes of concealing the content of utterances, but to many within the group that is not a conscious decision. Many times a specialized vocabulary develops because the outside, clear language does not have words to cover concepts. That being said, I think that l337 most probably developed for humorous reasons, and perhaps just a touch of "ain't that a cool hack" wonderment.
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