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"Look!" suddenly exclaimed Ned. "There's the agent now! ... I'm going to speak to him!" impulsively declared Ned.




This kind of thing has recently become very unfashionable. Writing guides completely agree on the point:

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Excess adverbiage reflects the style of an immature writer


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Some brag happily of having rarely used an adverb. And, while I feel initially a certain resistance to this aversion to the adverb, I actually cannot easily find a sentence which is not slightly or greatly improved by simply omitting the adverb.

Where do you stand?

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When you need an adverb, use an adverb. When you don't, don't.

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"One rarely needs an adverb," he responded occasionally.

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I agree; and yet two consecutive adverbs can produce (I think) a mellifluous double alveolar: "Molly rarely poorly uses an adverb."

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When you need an adverb, use an adverb. When you don't, don't.

Jeesh. It's just language. It's not like it's some kind of life threatening situatation or something.

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When you need an adverb, use an adverb. When you don't, don't.

Jeesh. It's just language. It's not like it's some kind of life threatening situatation or something.




Faldage, why do your posts on this board so often attempt to foreclose debate? Is it because you have nothing interesting to say?

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When you need an adverb, use an adverb. When you don't, don't.

Jeesh. It's just language. It's not like it's some kind of life threatening situatation or something.




Faldage, why do your posts on this board so often attempt to foreclose debate? Is it because you have nothing interesting to say?




Lighten up, HL. How can one person close debate with a single remark like this? I think your question is out of line and impolite. Personal insults are not necessary.

Does anyone remember Tom Swifties?

"I'll take the prisoner downstairs," said Tom condescendingly.

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Faldage, why do your posts on this board so often attempt to foreclose debate? Is it because you have nothing interesting to say?




You mean, like this?

http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=155408

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You mean, like this? http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=155408




Yes, just like that.

Consider: I asked his reasons for attempting to foreclose a debate, and volunteered it was because he has nothing interesting to say. You remember I have also attempted to foreclose a "debate", and in your impatience to expose me as a hypocrite (which your hasty interpretation of the facts leads you to assume I am) commit a fallacy of false assumption.

Annastrophic: "A thinks B does C because of D. A does C. Therefore, A does C because of D."

Let me resolve the apparent hypocrisy for you : The opposite cause to that which I imputed the foreclosure of debate in his case to in my case is the foreclosure of debate imputable to.

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> The opposite cause to that which I imputed the foreclosure of debate in his case to in my case is the foreclosure of debate imputable to.

...the common features of which are your overwheening arrogance and rudeness. Why do you bother with this empty yapping?

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...the common features of which are your overwheening arrogance and rudeness. Why do you bother with this empty yapping?




Anyway, I notice there are no adverbs in this post. Care to comment?

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Does anyone remember Tom Swifties?




'I remember,' Homo Loquens said reminiscently.

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HL, I am not normally a rude person, but there are some people that just get on my last nerve. Perhaps this is the problem here. If Faldage's comments bother you (he was answering your question), why don't you put him on your ignore list. I know that some of your comments bother several of us here. We should probably do the same. There is absolutely no good to come out of the constant bickering that seems to follow you about like the cloud of dirt that follows Pigpen. So, why don't we all exercise a little restraint and mind our manners, hmm? If someone cares to discuss adverbs with you, they will. If no one responds, the thread will sink like a stone. No big deal. It happens to all of us. Lighten up, folks.

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So, how do you ignore someone? Easy as pie. Click on the user name and their profile comes up. Along the bottom you'll find a small toolbar. Click on the part that says "Ignore This User" and Bob's your Uncle.
And, following Milo's advice, I'll stand up and be a (wo)man about it. You, HL, have earned the dubious distinction of being my one and only electronically ignored user.

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How pathetic.

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How pathetic.




As a child who pokes a finger in each ear and sings : "La la la I can't hear you la la la."

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Homo Loquens calls on his sock puppet Ullrich to back him up. Twice before have we had incidents of troublemakers being banned from the board -- one shared charateristic was, in typical troll fashion, they created several screen names to hide behind. Funny how these guys seem to operate the same way.

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"Oh? yawn," he yawningly yawned yawningly.

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Homo Loquens calls on his sock puppet Ullrich to back him up. Twice before have we had incidents of troublemakers being banned from the board -- one shared charateristic was, in typical troll fashion, they created several screen names to hide behind. Funny how these guys seem to operate the same way.




I only have a few more things to say now.

Since the denouement, ullrich has been identified with Homo Loquens. I took that for granted. There was no deception in posting under that username. It was only done as a valedictory gesture to consuelo. Her decision is an error. I felt she needed to know that.

Yes, a sock puppet.

In the typical illustration of the stages of human evolution a grunting quadrumane is seen to develop through several evolutionary stages into modern man. The problem with this image is clear: modern man is wearing a chamois loin cloth and carrying a Neolithic spear. But standing in a phantom extension beyond the page, is Homo Loquens. Talking Man.

Homo Loquens has no actual locus, and is without intrinsic mass. The characteristic details by which he may be identified are the radial streams of text messages, e-mails, blog entries, and message-board postings of which he is the unknowable centre.

And who is Homo Loquens?

I am Homo Loquens. consuelo is Homo Loquens. Faldage. Ted. inselpeter. Signifiers without referents. All of us. Il n'y a pas de hors-texte.

Since I first blundered into AWADtalk and signed in as ullrich to ask the etymology of siderated, I have enjoyed the logomachy; banter; ripostes; bad jokes; risible intellectual hautuer; google-ad bibble-babble; ad hominem digressions; nitpicking; Hog Wash; showboating; and childish transliteration of spoken cant. And while the thought processes at work behind consuelo's decision to shut me down; to negate dialectical relations with another; to immure herself in a bulwalk of oblivion, are different in aspect, but identical in essense with those that generate the initial conditions of racial intolerance, bigotry, and hatred, this is not while I (Sebastian, ullrich, Homo Loquens) am leaving AWADtalk.

I am leaving because the posts are like so many wringing hands; the hands of lotus-eaters; Persons from Porlock. Because when I came to I noticed that I was writing -- trying to write -- a pointless rejoinder to a pointless snub against my pointless thread about adverbs.

And seeing as I am leaving, and because it doesn't matter, I may as well tell you, my name is Marie and bin gar keine Russin, stamm' aus Litauen

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OK so, consuelo refuses to listen to you--this has shut you down? wow! i wish i was a powerful as consuelo and could shut people down by not listening to them!

fact is, HL, (or ullrich, or what ever you want to call your self), you can post at will. that is your right.

and it is our right to ignore you.

we can ignore when you are rude (and make rude comments to a first time poster about their choice of an on-line name)
and we can ignore you when you attempt trickery (and post as ullrich to and defend 'HL'--pretending to that ullrich and HL are not one and the same.)

it used to be hard to ignore such behaviour, but now with a click of button, we can chose.
just as you can chose to post here or not.. you have posted previously as ullrich (and as ullrich, you have made the statement that you will no longer post here..) so i guess we can expect that HL as a cyber nom will be dropped, and you will appear, re-incarnate as 'hard to ignore' or some other 'name' and behave the same way.. and will be ignore once again.

gee --isn't a sign of insanity to keep repeating the same behavior and expect different results?

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