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#151972 - 12/10/05 11:23 AM hogwash® rules(?) redux
consuelo Offline
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Rules of Hogwash for newbies and not-so-newbies.

this is harder than it looks, since we have been running full-tilt-amok for quite some time since last any rules were posted; but I am going to paste them in here and try to edit out all of the blatant rulishness.

to start, the moderator/hogmaster® posts a [really] obscure word and asks for definitions to be submitted via PM, usually within a se'nnight (seven nights). at that point the submittals are grouped into a post and polling proceeds. voting usually continues until all of the contributors have had a chance to vote, or until polls are arbitrarily closed by the hogmaster.

Scoring..
Rule A is: the points don't matter

[someone asks] Do those of us who contributed daffynitions get to vote? I was confused on this point by the first round. One gets to in Balderdash.

yes, in the normal course of the game only the contributors would vote. we've liberalized the rules to let everyone participate. my interpretation [has been that contributor votes count for more than onlooker votes]. here are the rules again, as amended to date:

1. [points are] given to each player for every vote (or guess) his phony definition receives.
2. points are awarded to each player who chooses the true meaning.
3. points are given to the moderator only if none of the players choose the true meaning.
4. [no] points are awarded to any player who submits a definition which is similar or very close to the correct meaning [rather, the moderator shall request a resubmittal]
5. If two or more players submit a definition per rule 4 (in the judgment of the moderator), the round will be thrown out with no points scored (or the moderator can disqualify obvious attempts to sabotage the game :-Þ )
6. A player may vote for her own definition but scores points only for those others she can bluff into also voting for that definition.. (i.e., you can't get a rule 1 point [voting for your own def'n!])


scoring, such as it is with points not mattering, is virtually at the whim of the moderator/hogmaster® [see latest round, e.g.]. whinging to the hogmaster, while encouraged, has been shown to be completely ineffectual.

there have been several hogmasters over the years.


You're welcome, tsuwm.
Jackie, can you sticky this up here?

Edited by request


Edited by consuelo (12/14/05 05:53 AM)

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#151973 - 12/23/05 08:09 PM Re: hogwash® rules(?) redux
dalehileman Offline
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Con: I'd like to nominate "beamage" (see Q&A) as evidently it's an obscure word but nevertheless accumulating several neologic meanings
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#151974 - 12/24/05 08:02 AM Anyone can be hogmaster
consuelo Offline
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If anyone has a word they think would be worthy of a round of Hogwash, please feel free to take the Hogmaster reins and run with it...

Step one: Announce that a new round of Hogwash is in the works and what the word for the round is.

Step two: Receive private messages from all those submitting daffynitions for the round. If the sennight is running out with fewer daffynitions than desired, post a reminder on the invite thread.

Step three: collate the daffynitions, include the correct answer, and post in a seperate thread after seven days.

Step four: Post answer and voting statistics in a seperate thread after seven days

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#151975 - 01/25/06 09:20 PM hogmaster is a lonely job
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Say, how come these Roolz never got locked?

Well, since they aren't, I have a question for y'all.

What with participation in The Game at quite a high level, I wonder if there is any interest in returning to a competition basis; i.e., reinstituting a scoring system. But I'm thinking there should be not only an incentive for submitting definitions, but for the moderator (read hogmaster™) as well.

Just ruminating here, boss.
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#151976 - 01/25/06 09:30 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
Jackie Offline

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I didn't see any particular need to lock them, but if you think it's a good idea, let me know and I will, Mr. Hogmaster Sir.

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#151977 - 02/11/07 03:44 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
BranShea Offline
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Hi, Jackie, this game keeps intriguing me , but when I read the rules there is one thing I don't understand. Someone puts up a word. The others give definitions but are they or are thay not allowed to use
dictionary help? Does it have to be an invention of your own?
It seems like fun. But you really must understand it well, before you join , no?

Would you give me an additional explanation, if you please? Thanks in advance.

Cecile

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#151978 - 02/11/07 04:57 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
belMarduk Offline
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Allo BranShea

You can't use a dictionary, you have to invent a definition.

The game has two parts, one of them is trying to invent the most likely-sounding definition in order to fool the most people into voting for your definition as the real one. You can also try to trick people into voting for your definition.

The other is to try to figure out which is the real definiton, which only the Hogmaster knows.

There's a whole scoring method but it seems to vary from Hogmaster to Hogmaster, and nobody's really counting anyway.

You don't have to have come up with a definiton to vote. Don't be shy to jump right in. It's all in good fun.

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#151979 - 02/11/07 04:59 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
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I would think that referring to a dictionary before making your own guess would be poor form at best. The definition a participant would offer should be completely made up.

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#151980 - 02/12/07 09:30 AM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
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referring to a dictionary before making your own guess [throwing up hands in horror e] Yeah--it's against the roolz! And nobody had better LIU before voting, neither!

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#151981 - 02/12/07 12:58 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
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O.K understood.Thanks

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#151982 - 02/14/07 03:28 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
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Quote:

referring to a dictionary before making your own guess [throwing up hands in horror e] Yeah--it's against the roolz! And nobody had better LIU before voting, neither!




Faldage and Jackie

Now something needs to be explained maybe. Why did I ask you about the yes or no of using a dictionary. Well, because I thought that maybe people brought up words that are as hard to get from a dictionary as it is to guess them. I must have overestimated you guys.

So you can drop your arms over this misunderstanding I hope.
It took me some time to clearly look at both you reactions.

It slowly dawned on me when you were talking on SQUINCH about grievances, Jackie. Gee,I'm a little embarrassed.


Edited by BranShea (02/14/07 04:51 PM)

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#151983 - 02/14/07 04:29 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
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I guess if you want to be Hogmistress you can get the word from anywhere you want.

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#151984 - 02/14/07 04:49 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
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No, Faldage, no of course I don't want to be Hogmistress . I only want to learn to play that game , that's all. Just experience how it works. I only thought it more complicated than it really is.
Thanks for your answer.

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#151985 - 02/14/07 07:23 PM ...only if you make it so
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It's not meant to be particularly complex. But once in a while you come across a word that's simple, ambiguous, sassy, obscure, silly, unexpected, impish, whatever, and you say "Now wouldn't THAT make a great Hogwash word!" and Presto, you're a Hogmistress!

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#151986 - 02/14/07 08:56 PM Re: hogmaster is a lonely job
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[bowing and scraping emoticon] You would think, as many mistakes as I have made by now, that I might have learned not to be so quick to jump to conclusions...sigh.

I am sorry. [hug]

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#193346 - 10/04/10 06:29 AM re above post/spam [Re: ]
Candy Offline
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I'm disappoint now
I have been reading about this game and looking forward to having a go in next round...so when I arrived here today and saw new post in hogwash thread...thought, yippie.
but NO
just a spam post. Shame on you.

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#193353 - 10/04/10 12:14 PM Re: re above post/spam [Re: Candy]
BranShea Offline
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Don't understand from which crypt this turned up, but sure there will be another hogwash some time. Hogs will get dirty over and over again.

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#193354 - 10/04/10 12:56 PM Re: re above post/spam [Re: BranShea]
LukeJavan8 Offline
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There was a spam posting between Candy and Jackie's just
prior to hers. The old ugg boot advertisement appeared.
I reported it, and pm'd Candy as to what to do when they
appear as so many advised me when I just responded to the
spam rather than using the 'contact us' button. Anu
told me in an email that the site tries to eliminate them
but they are coming in from China now.


Edited by LukeJavan8 (10/04/10 12:58 PM)
Edit Reason: typo
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#193359 - 10/05/10 04:57 AM Re: re above post/spam [Re: LukeJavan8]
Candy Offline
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I'll wait for the call then, BranShea. Do you say "soo-ee" !!!!!

and appreciate the PM, thanks Luke

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#207756 - 10/24/12 01:39 AM Re: Anyone can be hogmaster [Re: consuelo]
Calliopebrook Offline
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Originally Posted By: consuelo
If anyone has a word they think would be worthy of a round of Hogwash, please feel free to take the Hogmaster reins and run with it...

Step one: Announce that a new round of Hogwash is in the works and what the word for the round is.

Step two: Receive private messages from all those submitting daffynitions for the round. If the sennight is running out with fewer daffynitions than desired, post a reminder on the invite thread.

Step three: collate the daffynitions, include the correct answer, and post in a seperate thread after seven days.

Step four: Post answer and voting statistics in a seperate thread after seven days

It sounds terrible

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#207757 - 10/24/12 06:20 AM Re: Anyone can be hogmaster [Re: Calliopebrook]
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Welcome, Calliopebrook - it's good to have amongst us a beautiful-voiced poet who will run for ever! smile

Being Hogmaster isn't that bad. It is a sporadically intense activity, but I think, last time I took the Chair, it only used a total of four or five hours of my time, spread over three weeks.
If you feel like having a go, then do so, by all means - we'll support you as best we can.
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#207760 - 10/24/12 07:01 AM Re: Anyone can be hogmaster [Re: Calliopebrook]
Faldage Offline
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Originally Posted By: Calliopebrook

It sounds terrible


Marvin shows up in disguise.

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#207769 - 10/24/12 09:22 PM Re: Anyone can be hogmaster [Re: Faldage]
olly Offline
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Brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to take you to the bridge. hehe, classic.

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