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#151442 12/03/05 12:38 AM
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I did sheets of acid and listened to ~ as a kid--Dave Grohl--quoted by Solvej Schou

A distinct genre, or simply music of the Heavy-Metal style but played in an aggressive or hellacious way? That the name of the group wasn't capitalized in the AP story suggests that the expression may refer to a generic mode of presentation and hence it qualifies as a genuine neologism


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The phrase was used extensively here in Zild recently, when it became public knowledge that a police officer fronted such a band in his off-duty hours. The band's neo-nazi iconography and hate-filled lyrics apparently caused some concern, despite the officer's repeated insistence that what he chose to sign about after work had absolutely no impact on his performance at work.

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Wow. Music for deaf people. What'll those Zildians think if next?


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I did sheets of acid and listened to ~ as a kid--Dave Grohl--quoted by Solvej Schou

A distinct genre, or simply music of the Heavy-Metal style but played in an aggressive or hellacious way? That the name of the group wasn't capitalized in the AP story suggests that the expression may refer to a generic mode of presentation and hence it qualifies as a genuine neologism




"Heavy metal" -- like a number of other pop culture terms, song lyrics and band names --was taken from the writings of the only figure in (actually, on the periphery of) the American "Beat Generation" who deserves to be taken seriously: William S. Burroughs.

He used it in an entirely different context :

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"With their diseases and orgasm drugs and their sexless parasite life forms - Heavy Metal People of Uranus wrapped in cool blue mist of vaporized bank notes - And the Insect People of Minraud with metal music"

Burroughs, William S, (1964). Nova Express. New York: Grove Press. p. 112




Wiki provides a comprehensive list of subgenres here, without mention of "Satanic Death Metal."

I've always thought of Death Metal to be Heavy Metal plus (usually rather risible) Satanic pretensions, the obligatory "Cookie Monster™ " vocals [1] and silly as you please band names like Rotting Christ.

However, according to Wiki, the Satanic subgenre of Heavy Metal is Black Metal

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I did sheets of acid and listened to ~ as a kid--Dave Grohl--quoted by Solvej Schou

A distinct genre, or simply music of the Heavy-Metal style but played in an aggressive or hellacious way? That the name of the group wasn't capitalized in the AP story suggests that the expression may refer to a generic mode of presentation and hence it qualifies as a genuine neologism




What AP story? Can you give us a link?

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here's a link.

as you can see, he just uses it as a generic term. the phrase generates 560 ghits; many seem to be passing moral judgement (for or against) and not trying to fit it into a 'musical' niche.

>Wiki provides a comprehensive list of subgenres here, without mention of "Satanic Death Metal."

how did we get from the original 'satanic heavy metal' to 'satanic death metal'? kind of loosey-goosey compared to all of those other wiki-specifics.

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how did we get from the original 'satanic heavy metal' to 'satanic death metal'? kind of loosey-goosey compared to all of those other wiki-specifics.




No, that's my terminological inexactitude. The sentence :

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Wiki provides a comprehensive list of subgenres here, without mention of "Satanic Death Metal."




should read :

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Wiki provides a comprehensive list of subgenres here, without mention of "Satanic Heavy Metal."




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Might I suggest that "satanic" is simply an editorial adjective, used to indicate the speakers opinion on the origins or tendencies of the heavy metal genre?

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Might I suggest that "satanic" is simply an editorial adjective, used to indicate the speakers opinion on the origins or tendencies of the heavy metal genre?




Of course! But what else is a Wordsmith Talk forum for if not hair-splitting about word choice? "Satanic Heavy Metal" is to "Black Metal" what "frozen water" is to "ice" as I am almost certain the members of Rotting Christ would politely concur.

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Anna: Syndicated item circa Sept 17, entitled "Foo Fighters--ready to rock--softly as well"

With that and the AP writer's name,I bet you can find it easy

Fal: So far it sure looks that way; and thanks to all

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