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Are you all ready for the s**t to hit the fan? The real definition is... a. It was one of several terms I heard on The History Channel, in this fantastic series called "The Worst Jobs in History". There were five segments: the Middle Ages, the Tudors, the Stuarts, the Georgians, and the Victorians. The host and main re-enactor was Tony Robinson, whom IMDb tells me was in Blackadder which I've never seen, but from comments posted here undoubtedly explains why I liked him so well. He did a good job of explaining how terms developed, such as saying that if your last name is Fuller, you probably had an ancestor who prepared sheeps' wool. (By stamping on it in a vat of stale urine. ) Anyway, here in red is who did the submitting, followed by blue for who did the voting--and darn you, tsuwm, if it hadn't been for you I'd have had a clean sweep: a. A man, who, in the Middle Ages, had to go into the tunnels beneath towns and castles and clear out the plumbing when it got stopped up; gong is from the OE word for dung. real tsuwm b. A hollywood talent scout. musick Max, inselpeter, Elizabeth Creith c. noun. From the Vietnamese French. One who shapes, makes and tunes cymbals used in Vietnamese music. After formier meaning "one who shapes a hat." Father Steve Marianna, AnnaStrophic, Coffeebean d. a middleman who can arrange for someone to be awarded medals etc. Bingley Ted e. one who farms genetically original naturally grown crops consuelo Father Steve f. slang,obsolete: a derogatory reference to a farmer who quit after the dinner gong rang instead of taking advantage of long evenings and good weather to plant or harvest. Elizabeth Creith owlbow, Whiman O'Neill g. one who uses drugs by smoking them; Cockney rhyming-slang, from "bong warmer" wofahulicodoc etaoin h. A soldier who actively seeks danger, looking for the chance to win medals. sjmaxq faldage i. Collector of "road apples" in Amish country. TEd Remington Consuelo, Wofa j. A seller of used fats and oils. inselpeter Musick k. the timing device in a grandfather clock. WhitmanO'Neill l. One who grows sunflowers for the seeds, usually to be used in bird seed mix. Faldage bingley So--Musick and Father Steve cleaned up (heh) on this one. The Hogmistress uses her privilege to bestow ½ point to wofa for submitting a most-likely cross-over (figure that one out if you can), ½ point to Ted for submitting a definition that was really close without knowing it, and ½ point to WO'N for submitting the most logical definition that didn't get a vote. Hmm--and 3/4 of a point to Faldage, who had to submit an alternate definition due to the post about the Gong Show. Special thanks to Alex Williams, who provided me with a link, though googling gong farmer provides some interesting sites, I discovered. But here's his: gong farmer Now, as the final puzzle for this round: which of the above definitions has a secret ?
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Jackie, your link opens up a Discovery Channel "page not found". here's what I found using the A-Z index: The Gong Farmer The gong farmer was the Tudor equivalent of a modern mobile toilet attendant. It was his job to empty the privies (a row of holes in a wooden plank over a tank) of private households. Once the farmer’s vat was full of ‘gong’ (dung), he carted it outside the city walls. The job was so unsavoury that gong farmers were only allowed to work during the night and were forced to live together in designated areas. When tobacco arrived in this country most gong farmers became heavy smokers to mask the gut-wrenching pong of the gong!gardyloo!!
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Which definition has a secret? OK, I'll guess g, and that wofa grows pot on his compost heap. (Oops, guess it's not a secret now....)
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You're right, tsuwm--thanks. I should have checked before posting; sorry. Here's a pretty good one, though it's PDF--the HTML version isn't as good: trying again Ah ha--found the Discovery Ch. one that works--I'll go replace it now, above. Edit: [smacking palm to forehead] The one I "found" is the same as yours, M--I didn't at first realize that your 'gardyloo' was a link! I should say, the reason I decided to use this term was the stated relationship between dung and gong: that's what I'd really like a citation for, and haven't been able to find. Here's a slight hint re: the secret: the submitter is a clue. (More to follow, if needed...)
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I think I guffawed upon reading the Career Entries/Career Exits bit.
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Forms: 5 fyrmar, 6 fermer, fermourer. [f. FARM v.1 + -ER1.]
One who cleanses or purifies. In comb. gong-farmer. Obs.
c1440 Promp. Parv. 203 Goonge fyrmar [v.r. gonge~fowar], cloacarius. c1515 Cocke Lorell's B. (Percy Soc.) 3 Than came a gonge fermourer, Other wyse called a masser scourer. Ibid. 11 Stynkynge gonge fermers. there is a single OneLook ref.
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..what they called a garderobe inside the castle. The actual water closets were a wood constructed closet with a hole in the wooden seat. The plumbing consisted of a passage that led down the inside of the castle walls and opened into the castle's sewer system below. The very rich would use strips of linen as toilet paper. A gong farmer was in charge of cleaning the latrine pits under the castle and making sure they did not get clogged. These garderobes might be contained in privy rooms, a separate room near the Lord's quarters that held a large tub for bathing.
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On another segment (Tudors, I think), one of the Worst Jobs was Groom of the Stool. Yes, exactly what you'd think: someone to serve the king, er, in "chambers". This is where one current meaning of stool came from. (They had a reconstructed one: a wooden box with a hole in the top; but Mr. Robinson did not give a demonstration of this job.)
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and the very worst experience of a groom of the stool? the poor guy who found George(the second i think) dead 'on the throne'.
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George wasn't the only one. "Surely he covereth his feet in his summer chamber." Judges 3 (AV)
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Hmm--and 3/4 of a point to Faldage, who had to submit an alternate definition due to the post about the Gong Show.
Don't I get any points for violating Max's purity? Or does the fact that he has scored points in other rounds obviate that hono(u)r>
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Don't I get any points for violating Max's purity?
"He that questeth after points shall surely inherit the gong." Hezekiah 3:16 (AV)
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You think the original Gong Show writers knew this?
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Thoughts on the Worst Jobs page (gardyloo indeed)--
-- remember what "chamber" a chamber pot got used in
-- recall Diggory Venn, in Return of the Native...is a Woad Dyer any kin to a reddleman?
-- we had a prior Hogwash on Ketchcraft, named for Jack Ketch, the generic executioner
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Jackie: and ½ point to WO'N for submitting the most logical definition that didn't get a vote. Thank you, all-wise and all-knowing Great HogMistress! I am deeply humbled and bow before you. ...found dead on the throne. ...and poor Elvis.
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...found dead on the throne.
...and poor Elvis.
Well, he was the king...
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Thoughts on the Worst Jobs page (gardyloo indeed)--
-- remember what "chamber" a chamber pot got used in
-- recall Diggory Venn, in Return of the Native...is a Woad Dyer any kin to a reddleman?
-- we had a prior Hogwash on Ketchcraft, named for Jack Ketch, the generic executioner
Chamber music?
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...only if dinner was "Beans, beans, the musical fruit"...
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Hmm, I was thinking it could be used in a bad review of any non-chamber music concert.
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...only if dinner was "Beans, beans, the musical fruit"...
Heh.® I remember it as "Beans, beans, good for your heart"... the rest is very similar except for the rhyming word.
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...only if dinner was "Beans, beans, the musical fruit"...
Heh.® I remember it as "Beans, beans, good for your heart"... the rest is very similar except for the rhyming word.
". . . the more you toot"?
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> toot
that's the version I know...
formerly known as etaoin...
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Awwright--only one person has ventured a guess as to the puzzle-within-a-puzzle, so here's another hint: it is related to another thread that is still active. in this category
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