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#149560 - 10/30/05 01:38 PM Re: omecils?
Loc: Te Ika a Maui
The only slight problem with the "mis-hearing" option is that "omecils" in English does not seem to sound much like "homicides". The two Spanish forms ARE very close in pronunciation.
In Spain, maybe.
Whenever I try my rusty and limited Castilian on my Uruguayan friends, they all pronounce "ll" like "ch"._________________________
noho ora mai
#149561 - 10/30/05 01:41 PM Re: omecils?
yeah, S. American Spanishes tends to use ch or a thick j (zdj?) for ll, though I don't remember the particulars... we had to keep track of which Spanish we were using when Counterpoint made its Latin American cd..._________________________
formerly known as etaoin...
#149562 - 10/30/05 01:46 PM Re: omecils?
but a then-existing corrupted form of "homicidios"
Like I said, imagine Sancho is from Kentucky (or West Virginia...not to say there aren't learned gentlemen in those two states) and D. Quixote is from Boston (not to say there aren't uneducated people in Boston). The dialects and accents might make for some interesting misunderstandings. Sancho was a "campesino", near to if not illiterate and Quixote was a gentleman with a penchant for reading.
#149563 - 10/30/05 01:46 PM Re: omecils?
Loc: Te Ika a Maui
yeah, S. American Spanishes tends to use ch or a thick j (zdj?) for ll,
Yep, that Zj thingy sounds more descriptive._________________________
noho ora mai
#149564 - 10/30/05 04:55 PM Re: omecils?
Looking carefully in the wording of my edition, Sancho said "I know nothing of your omecils"... so the "your" threw me off. But reading it without the "your" I can see how can one directly derive it's a mispronunciation of homicides.
#149565 - 10/30/05 07:06 PM Re: omecils?
Loc: Marion NC
Yep. Omecillo means homicide. I guess it would be a lower register than cultured homicidio .
Sorta like the difference between first degree murder and second degree, I spect.
#149566 - 10/31/05 08:28 AM Re: omecils?
Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
Whoa! Go, Marianna! Woo-hoo--good for you, girl! [applause e]
#149567 - 10/31/05 04:14 PM Re: omecils?
...err... thanks a lot, Jackie, but there is very little merit in my finding the quotation. I've read Quixote 'bout four times, so I know more or less my way around it.
And by the way, if anyone's been put off reading it because they think it'll be "classicky", dull, or difficult... may I say that many people find it pretty funny, as well as interesting.
Oh, and youse are all very right about differing pronunciation between the Latin American Spanishes and Peninsular Spanish(es). Since I'm sitting here in the middle of the Empire, I'd clean forgot such an insignificant little thing!
...just kidding, ya know...
#149568 - 10/31/05 06:09 PM Re: omecils?
Yes, I'm one of those who find Don Quixote funny (comical) as well as interesting... just imagine a megalomaniac and schizophrenic Shakespeare with a knight complexity, and there you have it...
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