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#147281 09/06/05 12:02 AM
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"I am suing her for defecation"

Uli, people have said stranger things than this in my courtroom!


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Daggoned liberties?

Forgive the tu quoque, but the poster in question set the precedent.

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Could also be defalcation.




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the poster in question set the precedent.
That is irrelevant. You have taken a liberty without proper pre-authorization. All liberties must be applied for at the, uh, Department of Liberties Department. You did not file such a request. Please see the Clerk of Liberties should you desire to take any liberties in the future. Ask for Requisition Form Number 75-H-615j; in triplicate.
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Seriously, now: what is a 'tu quoque', please?


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'tu quoque' is a logical fallacy. It is performed by responding to the accusation "You did X" by saying "Maybe, but you did X, too." Whether or not the accuser did X is irrelevant to the truth or falsehood of the original accusation. The response is a sort of red herring which doesn't respond at all to the accusation but rather launches another in answer, thereby hoping to redirect the argument away from the original accusation.


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Tu quoque: "Oh, like you've never made a mistake."

Perhaps the most overworked logical fallacy?

Does anyone know the precise translation of this phrase?

Is it, roughly, "you yourself" ?


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the precise translation of this phrase

quoque, placed after the word which it emphasizes, also, too.


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"placed after the word which it emphasizes."

I don't understand. Postpositively? Adverbially? Could you possibly offer an example?

(By the way: if threads digress as widely as this one has from the original subject line, is it customary to start a new thread? Just wondering).





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The response is a sort of red herring which doesn't respond at all to the accusation
Something like begging the question, then?


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if threads digress as widely as this one has from the original subject line, is it customary to start a new thread?

The Committee for the Preservation of Thread Purity long ago recommended a rule which required one going off on tangents to start a new thread. The problem was that, in the thread in which the new rule was proposed, one poster took off on a pun about geometry and that subthread ended up talking about the origins of that academic study in Ancient Egypt. And another poster took off on how a term (thread) meaning fiber could be used in the context of organizing thought. By the end of the "thread", nobody remembered where it started, very much like conversations at cocktail parties.


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