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#139501 02/18/05 01:19 AM
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I think it is the constant exposure to different and new that keeps us growing mentally and emotionally.


...probably that's part of why we come here. And not a glazed-over eye in sight!


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"faulty"

To imagine that a time will come whose composition is, in its specifics, unimagineable to us is to imagine the familiar and the fruit of experience, and so I stick with "irony."


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"To imagine that a time will come whose composition is, in its specifics, unimagineable to us is to imagine the familiar and the fruit of experience, and so I stick with "irony."
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Nice construction and certainly seemingly ironic.

But then if we use your reasoning the sentence "I can imagine "nothingness" would also be true.

And what then would be this "nothingness"?
The human mind cannot conceptualize the "absence of everything" without a "something"
to contrast it, so what then would we be imagining?

The logic here might be paradoxical but it could not correctly be said to be ironic.
There is a subtle difference.




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The human mind cannot conceptualize the "absence of everything" without a "something"


I'm not human.


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"if we use your reasoning"

I don't follow you.


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[ I'm not human ]

That is a given, Wordwind, but remember,
there are rough-cut people in this big World that don't believe that you are superhuman.
But we do.


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To imagine that a time will come whose composition is, in its specifics, unimagineable to us is to imagine the familiar and the fruit of experience, and so I stick with "irony".
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"To imagine the unimagineable" is the cruix.

My example...

"To conceptualize 'nothing', " is the analogy.

Semantically both statements are meaningless.

Yet both statements have a function in describing
a state that can't be described, as a condition of contrast for clearer understanding.

Right?



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both statements have a function in describing a state that can't be described, as a condition of contrast for clearer understanding.

Nothing could be clearer.


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Pour three fingers of Johnny Walker Sharp Toes in a six oz. tumbler...neat!
Hold your hat and drink it down.
Listen now, young Faldage, understanding calls and your mind is clear.


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"Right?"

Right.

So, here is a question of authorial intent. Bradbury, an American, may have been ironic without knowing it. And a Brit might wag at the meta-irony and call it proof that 'yankees don't get irony'. Speaking of which, can anyone tell me the Etymology of 'yankee.'


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