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The obituaries in the local paper have revealed another interesting juxtaposition of family names.
Mr Richard Basil Berry, son of William Basil Berry and Lily Berry, has departed this life. He is survived by his wife, Mary Berry.
Mr Berry was born in Garden, Michigan, in 1937, and is being served by a funeral home in Newberry.
Sadly, the obit does not report the names of any of Mr Berry's eight children, two stepchildren, 26 grandchildren or two great-grandchildren.
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I knew their kids! Lemme see: there was Elder, Huckle, Boysen, Cloud, Logan, Rasp (known as Razz), Mul, and Beri.
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and the cousins, Holly, Chuck, Vari, Barry and the other Rasp, (Rasputin).
thanks Jackie, I didn't have the guts to go first.
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“and is being served by a funeral home in Newberry”
with giblet gravy, sweet potatoes, rolls, and cranberries.
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For a listing of their extended family, go to: http://onelook.com/?w=*berry&ls=aJackie, you ain't very berry; you're nuts!  Edit Addition: "in berry" = containing ova or spawn [from the link I posted].
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with giblet gravy, sweet potatoes, rolls, and cranberries.Grrosss!!! 
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In reply to:
Grrosss!!!
De grrossstibus non est disputandum.
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That's enough to make me drupe.
But it does bring bract memories of a better thyme.
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there's knots berry much left unsaid, but. for juan: Beisbol been bery berry good for me. reduplicating diseases: Beri-Beri wwftd: upas - a tall tropical Asian tree of the mulberry family with a latex that contains a substance used as an arrow poison; fig. a poisonous or harmful influence defending yourself against someone armed with fresh fruit: the sixteen-ton weight is just one way, just one way of dealing with the raspberry killer (John Cleese) blowing raspberries:  :p~~~~~ ppppbbbbbttttt --- what is the word for an aggregate cluster of fruit derived from a single flower, such as the raspberry or blackberry?
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Ah, you've been making incorrect asptsuwmptions about tsuwm, AnnaS. You see, he had a great, big, drupacious Dave Barry (read: Berry) that dwelled inside, dwelling to ectocarpaciously escape once Dave retired.
So, DaveBerry's gone and tsuwm has come to the rescue...the real fruwty tsuwm.
Edit: Have searched for a while, and the only thing I've found about multiple drupes is "aggregate of druplets." I'm positive I've seen an adjective, tsuwm, that names such aggregates on some botanical glossary or some glossary on the Web, perhaps even your own.
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Owlbow, fear not; whatever you post, there is surely something sillier already done by somebody here!
--- what is the word for an aggregate cluster of fruit derived from a single flower, such as the raspberry or blackberry? Speaking of fear and trembling: surely it can't be this simple, but what about bunch, as in grapes?
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Bunch wouldn't work for an aggregate berry, such as the raspberry and blackberry, because grapes are separate, individually defined drupes, and the aggregates are multi-drupes (or 'druplets' as I just learned while researching this) that aren't separate from each other.
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Ah. Thanks. That's what I was afraid of. I've never had the opportunity to observe grapes as they develop, as I have berries. Back to the Google board...
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I tried OneLook's reverse dictionary feature on this, and it worked!!
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Got it! I had just been going to post that you probably hadn't meant raceme, and I see now that I was right.
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what is the word for an aggregate cluster of fruit derived from a single flower, such as the raspberry or blackberry?
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A little more about raspberries and blackberries:
An online dictionary identifies such fruits with aggregated drupelets as being 'bramble fruits,' a descriptive name.
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bramble fruitsDoes this speak to the structure of the fruit itself or to the nature of the plant on which the fruit grows? AHD defines bramble as "[a] prickly shrub …" http://www.bartleby.com/61/24/B0452400.html
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The dictionary site didn't include information about why 'bramble fruit' had been so identified. There was some connection to a German word, but I've lost sight of the site.
It would make sense that bramble fruit is so described because of the perception of such fruit as growing in brambles, faldage.
I just like the term 'bramble fruit' because of its rural whimsical sound.
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bramble is the name of my wallpaper/bedlinens pattern (laura ashley) it is stylized blackberries (brambles and leaves, and berries and flowers!)
i would say a bramble is shrub, and raspberries, blackberries, boyenberryies, are the fruit of the same. and all these berrie have a similar structure--aggregate drupelets if you will
but cloud berries (i think) are more like cranberries..(or blue berries) these are not bramble fruits.. the berry is more like a small cherry (albeit with smaller pits)
they are a single berry stucture, not an aggrigate.
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Helen! How can anyone sleep comfortably on even the idea of thorns!  The only ref. I've ever seen to cloudberries was in a book where the main character went to...Norway, I think. His hostess served him cloudberries, which apparently are a great treat (which I would definitely not consider a bowl of cranberries to be!) and only in season for about one month. Don't really know what they are, though; have to look them up one of these days.
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Thanks for the link eta. Always meant to find out about cloudberries. I went on to look at some other links in an effore to find out just how big they were. Your link said three times the size of a strawberry, which seemed huge, though there are strawberries and strawberries! It took a long time and I found a lot of discrepancy but finally this seemingly scientific site gave illustrations and comments that put their size as from 25mm (abou 1") across down to about 2/3 of that size: http://www.uku.fi/northernberries/files/pdf/EliteClo.pdf
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Thanks, eta; that was quite a story.
According to A.E. Porsild (1953, Edible Plants of the Arctic.) Eskimos beat chewed caribou tallow with seal oil until it was fluffy then mixed in cloudberries to create a confection called "Eskimo Ice Cream."
I am suddenly very thankful that I live where and when I do.
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Etaerio...n.
So, etaeriated for the adjective?
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> A cluster of fruits formed from the unfused carpels you thinkin' what I'm thinkin...? No, probably not!
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Possibly so, Mav'...
Back to 'etaereate' from tsuwm's link.
There are so many dictionaries online and so many words-a-day sources. tsuwm's worthlessness appeals to me because he addresses the possible worthlessness of words.
But in reading about the etaereates, the thought struck me that it would be fun, if one had the time and inclination, to have a lexicon of worthless words the definitions of which also contained rather rare words.
etaerio [edited] = an aggregate of drupelets
That's an ideal entry for such a dictionary.
And I do mean 'worthlessness' in the most affectionate application possible.
Oh, and etaereate spelled backwards is etaereate. Has anyone else noticed?
Well, no one could have noticed since I just made up the word...but it might exist. Must go googling...
Edit: Nope. Etaereate isn't on Google. Shoot. It is a very good word I just invented, and I plan to use it frequently, especially since it's such a lovely palindrupe.
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There were (probably still are) both bramble berries and blackberries near where my parents lived. The berries look alike but the brambles aren't quite as tasty as the blackberries and leaves are different, being lobed instead of single. They also have even worse thorns if you can imagine it.
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well WinddniW, you are now perforce obligatorily expected to write the longest palindrupe to be found in Known Space; and it goes without saying that..
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Etaereate truly is a word that should be.
I propose that its pronunciation could be:
eh-TEAR-ee-it
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uh-TEAR-ee-it
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Example sentence:
"Etaereate fruits may be found in abundance on the byways of the rolling hills of New England, the beloved wild raspberry of Robert Frost being a prime example of this kind of bramble fruit."
Question: What is the proper term for fruits that have their seeds on the outside of the exocarp, such as the strawberry?
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etaereate is potentially more worthless than aetataureate (coined as a nonce-word by Michael Chabon).
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Definitions, please, tsuwm.
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From the collision of roots it's gotta be golden age or of the golden age I guess?
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>Definitions, please, tsuwm. I could do that, but in the interests of the struggle against nescience, in all of its rampant forms, please read on. you could add a OneLook button to your toolbar, right up there with the Address and Go buttons. then you could just click OneLook and paste a word into the OneLook search box and you would save yourself (and myself) the all the time it takes to ask (and answer) this kind of request. If you don't know how to do this (it's really simple) I could post the instructions right here. (this is Miscellany, isn't it?!) you can, of course, do this with any site you use so often that even using a bookmark seems bothersome. I have buttons for OneLook, OED, and (wait for it) wwftd on my toolbar. (there, now this is almost an actual word post.) all browsers give you similar customizing features. oh, here's the link for aetataureate http://onelook.com/?w=aetataureate&ls=abut if you just want to skip the whole thing, mav is pretty much there. NB: the Chabon citation is from the amazing The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay.
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d'oh, shoulda known it ud be on that dickshoneairy site!
tsuwm, did you give some of us this title as a recommendation at some point/some place/some alternate life? or am I just disrememberificationising?
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But, but...dang it, I like my nescience, and will fight to the death to keep it!
(Do you mean to tell me that there is some way that my computer could be told to add a button for Onelook or whatever? Seriously?? Geez, it sure would be nice to have one for this place. Where would it be--up top along with back, forward, stop, refresh, search, etc., or--I hope not--down at the bottom where there are just icons for, ex., my anti-virus program?) (I can hear you sighing from clear down here, M.)
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Ms. J, I just PM'd the manual for this to Ww. If she finds it helpful atall, perhaps she could post same here. or if you can tolerate the MS/IE Help manual, open up the manual (click Help | Contents and Index) and go to Customizing Your Brower: Change the appearance of the Windows toolbar.
but to answer your question, you could have a button for any site you visit alot up there in the grey. I have buttons for OneLook, AWAD, OED and (whoda thunk) wwftd.
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Here's what tsuwm sent me and it worked without a hitch. Thanks, tsuwm!
"so you've got IE, right?
1. right click (however you do that with optical mouse) in the toolbar area (the grey area up top with all the other buttons) you should see a pull-down menu that looks like this:
/ Standard Buttons
/ Address Bar
/ Links
Radio
if Links is not checked, select it (left click), and when you right click the toolbar again Links should be checked.
2) now, somewhere on the toolbar there should be a separated field labeled "Links", which comes and goes with the menu selection you've just played with. There may or may not be clickable buttons displayed next to it -- most likely not unless someone has changed settings for you since you got your system.
3) If there are buttons on the toolbar that you never use you can delete them by right-clicking ON THE BUTTON itself, which gives you another pull-down menu with a Delete option. This holds for any of the buttons in the grey area -- if you never use them you can pretty confidentally get rid of them; they're just taking up space you could use for better stuff. NOTE: Should you accidentally delete a button that you find that you need, it's easily recovered.
4) now for the good stuff; and it's pretty simple. In order to create a new button for (say) OneLook, just go to OneLook.com. Next to the address (it's in the Address box! :) you should see an icon to the left of the Address. Left-click that icon and without releasing the mouse button drag that sucker right over next to the Link field. et viola!" ~ tsuwm
Edit: I just took the five sites I visit regularly and dragged each over to the links. Super. It's like having a very Highly Favored Favorites in one place without having to scroll down. Great.
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I like my nescience
I always said you were a nice girl, Jackie.
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for those of you on Mac OSX, using Safari, there's a great little freeware add-on called "Acid Search". I'll see if I can find an url, but here's a screenshot of what it does. I can double click a word and do a right-click search of just about anywhere, including OneLook. pretty neat. http://www.rogergrow.com/image/acidsearchsm.jpghere's the url for AcidSearch: http://www.pozytron.com/acidsearch
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> tsuwm, did you give some of us this title as a recommendation [...]?
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WOW; I just got rid of a bunch of stuff I never use. I was puzzled by a link called "Top Sites", having never seen this before (I only discovered by accident that items on the top bar {I have mine set to blue, btw, not gray} can be shoved back and forth. I hate doing it, because I never have any idea of how to get back what I want, and I like for them to be in the exact places that I'm used to them being in), and this Top Sites was the furthest over, in territory I'd never explored before. {Aside--M, you'd better go get a cool washcloth to soothe your smacked forehead...) So I clicked on it, and what do you think??? It opened right up to the home window for my ISP, which I have had to search for every single time I've ever needed it. (Never mind, M and all you other whizzes: I don't know how I've made it this far, either.) But I have AWADtalk right up there, now. Thanks bunches and drupes!
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> tsuwm, did you give some of us this title as a recommendation
>> tsuwm, did you give some of us this title as a recommendation [...]? [whistling...]
I believe that I did mention The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay in these pages.
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