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here's an idea for a new feature, being a word that showed up this week on a wwftd site search.
geltungbedürfnis - this gets a few google-hits, all German of course.
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Is that 'Geltungsbedürfnis'?
(...nach Anerkennung suchend;-)
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well, no. I don't suppose (since it seems to be one of those compound things) that is more common in the plural.
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anyway, yours gets ~19000 hits to the ~40 on the other. furthermoreover, whatsit mean?
edit: here's from wwh:
First, it should be capitalized
It is a compound word, Geltung and Bedüfnis
For Geltung:
cachet die Geltung
importance die Geltung
prestige die Geltung
prestigiousness die Geltung
repute die Geltung
standing die Geltung
worth
desideratum das Bedürfnis
necessity das Bedürfnis
need das Bedürfnis
requirement das Bedürfnis
want das Bedürfnis
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Geltungsbeduerfnis
What it means: my guess -- a persons need for validation; Cassell's -- desire for admiration, desire to show off.
I would think it needs the genetive s, because the need is a property of the thing needed.
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> well, no. I don't suppose that is more common in the plural.
The plural would be 'Geltungsbedürfnisse'.
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Gruß Peter!
> What it means: my guess -- a person's need for validation
Yep - I wrote pretty much the same in German (nach Anerkennung suchend) cause I thought it might be some guessing game I didn't know about and I didn't want to spoil it :-§
The term is (I assume) pretty common in psychology, e.g. with regard to a child's need for attention and self-actualisation, or whatever it's called. It is known to me, anyway.
> I would think it needs the genitive s, because the need is a property of the thing needed.
Makes sense though I've never thought about it. It just sounds right when said to me. I'd try to explain it like this though:
The genitive applies in cases like this: "lobenswert" ('commendable') means "des Lobens wert", or "wert, gelobt zu werden". "Geltungsbedürfnis" could be parsed as "Bedürfnis nach Geltung". Let it suffice to say that two substantives compounded here require this bridging 's' between them and that this is self-evident to German speakers. Maybe Herr Sieber could add something useful, I dunno.
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