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#137382 - 01/22/05 07:45 AM Re: yup
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 6296
Loc: Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... Well, there is a point at least in reading desired stress of syllables as intended. Here's a bit of verse I wrote a long time ago, and the stress on 'mis' in 'miscellany' is desirable in order to match the stress on 'sleight':
"I know a man who gathers and scatters.
He offers a miscellany of sleight of hand,
propels old doves high into the air
from his secret cages.
He folds around me tightly as a shell
while peas appear and vanish."
If the stress had been on 'cell,' I wouldn't have written the line that way.
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#137383 - 01/22/05 10:08 AM Re: yup, scoring
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Carpal Tunnel
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Registered: 04/03/00
Posts: 10463
Loc: this too shall pass well, of course, oftroy is right, and so is Wordwind. (hi milo.)
but the pronunciation that I linked to above won the Merriam-Webster preferred pronunciation contest. so there.
I must say, with my ear, which is according to my latest test rated at 60% distortion, I cannot discriminate between the major and minor accent (except with my still perfect reading ear).
this is how AHD marks it.
MIS-uh-LAY-nee
incidentally, the two .wav files sound like the same voice to me.
[AHD .wav file available on request, or you could use onelook to get to it. : ]
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#137384 - 01/22/05 10:10 AM another word
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Carpal Tunnel
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Registered: 04/03/00
Posts: 10463
Loc: this too shall pass how does the group (ha!) pronounce miscellaneous?
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#137385 - 01/22/05 10:12 AM Suwannee Rivers
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Carpal Tunnel
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Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 2658
Loc: Chicago Miscellany = Mississippi
... that really is your voice, ain't it, Mr.T?
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#137386 - 01/22/05 10:13 AM Re: yup, scoring
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 6296
Loc: Piedmont Region of Virginia, U... strongest stress on LANE in miscellaneous; slight stress on mis-
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#137387 - 01/22/05 10:14 AM Re: another word
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Carpal Tunnel
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Registered: 12/01/00
Posts: 13653 miss uh LAY nee us
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#137388 - 01/22/05 10:59 AM Re: another word
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journeyman
Registered: 11/18/04
Posts: 95
Loc: New Hampshire miss-CELL-uh-knee
Dr. Bill and I have exchanged messages about this subject, and he presented the fact that indeed misc- is the root of the word, per Latin miscere (to mix), so it seems proper it should be emphasized. But from this root comes the Latin miscellus, for which both of the first two syllables are long (and it sounds better saying miss-KELL-us or miss-CELL-us, eh?)[.] Then those silly Latins added another suffix and created the word "miscellaneus", in which the "mis" and the "a" are emphasized (and the "a" is probably more emphasized) - and this is the word from which we get miscellan y/eous. So I'm sure "MIS-cell-EY'-nee-us" is the more proper. Maybe misCELLanee is just a corruption.
Edit: oops, misread your post.
I say MISS-sell-LANE-e-yuss (greatest accent on "lane").
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#137389 - 01/22/05 11:20 AM Re: another word
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757 > miss uh LAY nee us
I'm close to Fong and W2 -
MIss-er-LANE-ee-us
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#137390 - 01/22/05 03:15 PM Re: another word
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veteran
Registered: 05/25/02
Posts: 1529
Loc: Aladamnbama the most watered s... MISS suh la NEE yus
Good God yall, how do people understand you all when you speak?
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#137391 - 01/23/05 11:39 AM Re: bated breath
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Carpal Tunnel
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Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 6511
Loc: lower upstate New York Just to be sure, everyone understood my merry jab at Mizz J, yes?
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