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#125868 - 03/22/04 01:15 PM imprimatur
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 01/18/01
Posts: 13858 Date: Mon Jun 5 00:19:54 EDT 1995
Subject: A.Word.A.Day--imprimatur
im.pri.ma.tur n [NL, let it be printed, fr. imprimere to print, fr. L, to imprint, impress--more at impress] (1640) 1 a: a license to print or publish esp. by Roman Catholic episcopal authority b: approval of a publication under circumstances of official censorship 2 a: sanction approval b: imprint c: a mark of approval or distinction
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#125869 - 03/22/04 11:35 PM Re: imprimatur
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veteran
Registered: 01/06/04
Posts: 1474
Loc: California And don't forget imprimatur's kissing cousin: nihil obstat.
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#125870 - 03/23/04 04:38 AM Re: imprimatur
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 1692
Loc: UK Thanks for that uncle - for those who, like me, have never heard it before:
nihil obstat:
NOUN: 1. Roman Catholic Church ~ An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals. 2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.
ETYMOLOGY: Latin, nothing hinders : nihil, nothing + obstat, third person sing. present tense of obst re, to hinder.
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#125871 - 03/23/04 09:06 AM Re: imprimatur
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veteran
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Loc: California You're welcome, dxb. I remember the first time I heard the phrase nihil obstat it was pronounced by the priest as nickel obstat. It's been a long while since I've seen a book with both these ecclesiastical okays in 'em.
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#125872 - 03/23/04 09:15 AM Re: imprimatur
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Carpal Tunnel
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Posts: 13653 Sometimes words with Hs in them were spelled with CH in medieval Latin, e.g., MICHI for MIHI or NICHIL for NIHIL. My own WDI is that the orthography was to explicitly indicate a pronounced H rather than a silent one.
NIHIL OBSTAT is also the motto of the National Registry of Armigers, the second amendment rights organization that believes the purpose of the second amendment to the US Constitution is to give individuals the right to have what are loosely known as coats of arms.
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#125873 - 03/23/04 09:52 AM Re: Hastivibrans
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veteran
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Loc: California Sometimes words with Hs in them were spelled with CH in medieval Latin, e.g., MICHI for MIHI or NICHIL for NIHIL. My own WDI is that the orthography was to explicitly indicate a pronounced H rather than a silent one.
The {h} in Classical Latin was probably not pronounced (e.g., (h)arena 'sand'). Medieval Europe is another thing. I always assumed the spelling michi / nichil were pronounced with voiced palatal or velar fricatives, rather than stops.
So, armigers bear heraldic arms and heralds bear messages. And who arms the bears? Arma ursorum cano.
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#125874 - 03/23/04 11:02 AM Re: Hastivibrans
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Carpal Tunnel
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Posts: 13653 Arma ursorum cano
Or, as Agricola sang in Grunt: Pigorian Chant from Snouto Domoinko De Silo
Porcos cibumque cano.
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