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#119347 01/09/04 07:53 PM
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I searched for "eponyms earls" and found two more:
"Familiar eponyms include braille (Louis Braille), sadism (the Marquis de Sade), mesmerise (F. A. Mesmer), cardigan (7th Earl of Cardigan), and sandwich (4th Earl of Sandwich). Just think — had the interests of the two Earls been transposed, we would probably now be wearing nice woollen sandwiches and eating toasted cardigans. "

I always preferred cardigan sweathers. Easier to put on, and
warmth adjustable.


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Purely personal note - I detest cardigans, and purely because of the way they look. I, therefore, deplore the trend of the last 10 years or so for young women to wear cardigans. But they just don't listen to me...




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It used to be said girls had two good reasons for wearing a
sweater. Not with a cardigan.


#119350 01/13/04 06:59 PM
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they just don't listen to me

Or perhaps they *do listen to you and that's why they wear cardigans.


#119351 01/14/04 03:05 PM
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I detest cardigans...

Perhaps you haven't seen the right girl in the right cardigan.

http://sarah.suso.org/pix/cardigan.jpg

Now why do I imagine this won't change your mind?



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That's clever cleavage.


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combining sweaters with earl, we are not limited to cardigan.. there is also raglan-- in fact one can have a raglan cardigan...

raglan(in sweaters) referes to sleeves that start at neck egde, and come down diagonally across shoulder to the underarm)--there is a raglan castle in wales.. (i am guessing there is an earl to go with the castle)


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Fitzroy James Henry Somerset, 1st Baron Raglan
His bio is impressive - right hand man to Duke of Wellington.
I didn't find any reference to support his entitlement
to sartorial eponymry.


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Sorry, but every time I see Raglan, I think of my ancestral home, the little town on the North Island's West Coast where my family settled after leaving the nascent Pakistan. Raglan was a poky little town in my youth, with nothing going for it if one was not a surfer. Now, it's a trendy little cafe spot, with nothing much going for it if one is not a surfer.


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Fitzroy James Henry Somerset, 1st Baron Raglan

Raglan lost his right arm at Waterloo, married Wellington's niece, and was in charge of the British troops in the Crimea during the war of the same name. His orders to the Light Brigade, commanded by the Earl of Cardigan, lead to the infamous charge and later a poem by Tennyson. "Into the valley of death ..." and all that. It also caused Pierre Bosquet, an observing French general, to remark: "C'est magnifique, mais c'est ne pas la guerre." I'm not sure if Bosquet was wearing a pullover or not.


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i am guessing there is an earl to go with the castle

Not necessarily. Earls, called counts on the continent, may have castles, but not all castles have earls. Baronets, barons, viscount, earls, dukes, princes, and kings can have castles, too. The wife of an earl is called a countess (viz. Ada Countess Lovelace), while in Scotland earls are called thanes (thegns). Earls are also associated with shires, called counties. Burke's Peerage is a goodly resource: http://www.burkes-peerage.net/ .



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any reference to support his entitlement
to sartorial eponymry.


According to AHD4 that's the very who that it was:

http://www.bartleby.com/61/17/R0021700.html


#119359 01/14/04 10:45 PM
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Raglan lost his right arm at Waterloo...

Well, that would save on yarn. Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-)


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That's clever cleavage.

Yes, she holds her card close to her chest.


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In reply to:

Raglan lost his right arm at Waterloo...

Well, that would save on yarn. Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-)


Well, your comment reminded me of a joke about thalidomide, but this time, I shall resist. Any who wish can simply google "thalidomide knitting"


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> there is a raglan castle in wales

Funnily enough I sent a response to Anu t'other day on this topic - don't think I kept a copy, so unless he includes it in the next mailout, the immortal nuggets may be lost for all time. all together, now: oohhhhwwwwwwww! ;)


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thalidomide from (ph)thalic (acid) from naphthalic acid from Greek naphtha 'liquid bitumen' from Semitic npt. Talk about beheading words. From the A-H.


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Thalidomide was not a bit humorous. Thank goodness our FDA
had a lady doctor with balls enough to keep it out of US.
http://www.adrugrecall.com/thalidomide/thalidomide.html


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Actually, Dr. Bill, thalidomide is proving to be a real boon to many, now that its danger to pregnant women is well-known. It is being used to treat leprosy, among other things, I believe.


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Dear Max: to be sure thalidomide has some legitimate uses.
But if it had been put on market over the counter in US forty years ago, there might have been a hundred thousand deformed kids.


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Bill, perhaps you could rephrase that to: there might have been a hundred thousand more deformed kids.


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Bingley, perhaps you could rephrase that to: there might have been an additional hundred thousand deformed kids.


[/NP] :)



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Hmmm, yes, I see what you mean. OK, amendment accepted.

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