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If I understand instructions in Webster's New International, the plural given for "Charles" in today's quote is incorrect.
" So Charles was crown'd; but now the angry mob Demand that he be brought to Tyburn Tree - Such is the curse on all odd-numbered Charles'." Emily Sheffield, Jackdaw, The Guardian (London), May 29, 1996."
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Are you saying they pluralated Charles by adding an apostrophe?
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Dear Faldage: that appears to be the usage in the passage quoted. I shall not be surprised if our UK members say UK usage differs from US usage.
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My belief is that, even in the UK, it might be more likely for Charles to be pluralised Charleses. The Grauniad (in many other ways one of the world's best English language papers), can sometimes demonstrate a cavlier attitude to the language. The number of times its writers 'beg the question' inappropriately (at least for this logic-dillettante), is past count.
To be honest, I'm quite comfortable with the idea of using an apostrophe to account for the plural in such a case, but that may be because I enjoy using apostrophes wherever I can. In any case, I suspect that even the writer in The Guardian would expect the word to have been pronounced (in the reader's mind) as Charleses.
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I have to admit "Charleses" looks horrid, but at least it cannot be confused with a genitive.
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Is The Guardian a kind of thumbing-their-noses-at-societal-standards publication? If so, that might explain their (possibly) deliberate disregard of language proprieties.
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Check it out for yourself at guardian.co.uk :-)
I find it irresistible, and genuinely believe that the Saturday edition, in particular, is the most deeply satisfying weekend read ever.
But it is a huge 'Labour' supporter - it cannot help its left-wing right-on-ness, and, though no doubt proud of the standard of its writing (George Orwell being one of its most famous contributors), can tend to slip into the latest demotic rather more swiftly than its other national broadsheet counterparts.
At least it has a Reader's Editor (an ombudsman), who does on occasion address these issues in his column.
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Man, what a disappointment to find out not only that this is a real word, but its meaning. From your sentence, I was hoping it was a coinage of emotive with demonic connotations!
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Dear Jackie: I learned the word "demotic" from articles about ancient Egypt. Remember the Rosetta Stone, with three kinds of writing on it, that made it possible to decipher the hieroglyphics? Here is a good site about Egyptian writing.: http://www.egyptologyonline.com/hieroglyphs.htm
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Thanks for the ref, Bill. Of course, sorry to disappoint, Jackie, but the word is used these days (as far as I am aware), in the way the 'vulgar' was used for Latin, I think (remember Jerome's famous Vulgate?). Vernacular, also, is sometimes used in a similar sense. Of course, except perhaps for the earlier use of vulgar, none of these uses is strictly, ie literally, accurate.
Or have I got that wrong?
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Dear Shanks: It seems to me that "vulgar" is now strongly pejorative, "vernacular" moderately so, but "demotic" still means merely "of the people". Or have I been misled?
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Don't ask me! Yes, I know about the pejorative connotations of vulgar and vernacular, but merely have a hint of a memory that 'demotic' was originally a word that specifically referred to the Egyptian labguage, and wasn't widely, or at all, applied to the 'common' tongue in other languages. Until, of course, recently. Hence my claim that it was inaccurately used. I could be worng though, given my reluctance to actually look anything up.
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Well, sunshine, I'm going to weaken your case still further by saying that your understanding of the the situation is also mine.
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Source: The Collins English Dictionary © 2000 HarperCollins Publishers:
demotic [dý'mɒtýk]
adjective
1 of or relating to the common people; popular
2 of or relating to a simplified form of hieroglyphics used in ancient Egypt by the ordinary literate class outside the priesthood
Compare: hieratic
noun
3 the demotic script of ancient Egypt
[ETYMOLOGY: 19th Century: from Greek demotikos of the people, from demotes a man of the people, commoner; see demos]
de'motist noun
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I got there too, Doctor. But then realised that perhaps what the hint in the back of my feeble brain had been was this: that Demotic, used for a language, was originally only relevant to Egyptian. As a general term, of course, as you point out, it simply means 'of the people'.
I don't think we have an argument here. Thanks for the ref.
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that Demotic, used for a language, was originally only relevant to Egyptian. As a general term, of course, as you point out, it simply means 'of the people'.
All sorted? Well that's just capital!
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'of the people'. All sorted? Well that's just capital!Yes, full Marx! 
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full Marx
Are you sure you're Lincoln to the right historical figure?
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Das Kapital? That can't be right!
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No, it's left.
I swore to myself I wasn't gonna participate in this, but.
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Anyone recognise this?
"And after thousands and thousands and thousands of years, and after Hieroglyphics and Demotics, and Nilotics, and Cryptics, and Cufics, and Runics, and Dorics, and Ionics, and all sorts of other ricks and tricks (because the Woons, and the Neguses, and the Akhoonds, and the Repositories of Tradition would never leave a good thing alone when they saw it), the fine old easy, understandable Alphabet—A, B, C, D, E, and the rest of ’em—got back into its proper shape again for all Best Beloveds to learn when they are old enough."
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And now there is little left worth saying.
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Can't remember the actual story - but it's all about li'l thingy and her dad and the way they make up shapes to represent sounds and hence invent the alphabet. Yes? I
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