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Topic Options #115432 - 11/07/03 04:20 PM rover wwh Carpal Tunnel Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 13858 I looked up the etymology because I had not idea as to its origin. The "Rover Boys" presumably liked to be constantly on the move, though with no particular destination in mind,just looking for adventure. But no piratical motives, as suggested by last line of definition and etymology. rover1 ['rəʊvə] noun 1 a person who roves; wanderer 2 (Archery) a mark selected at random for use as a target 3 (Croquet) a ball that has been driven through all the hoops but has not yet hit the winning peg 4 (Australian Rules football) one of the three players in the ruck, usually smaller than the other two, selected for his agility in play [ETYMOLOGY: 15th Century: from rove1] rover2 ['rəʊvə] noun a pirate or pirate ship [ETYMOLOGY: 14th Century: probably from Middle Dutch or Middle Low German, from roven to rob] Top #115433 - 11/07/03 08:36 PM Re: rover Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11582 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky players in the ruck, What's a ruck? Top #115434 - 11/07/03 08:46 PM Re: rover Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 7186 Loc: Vermont What's a ruck? hey, Scooby-Doo! _________________________ formerly known as etaoin... Top #115435 - 11/08/03 09:24 AM Re: rover wwh Carpal Tunnel Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 13858 ruck1 [rʌk] noun 1 a large number or quantity; mass, esp. of ordinary or undistinguished people or things 2 (in a race) a group of competitors who are well behind the leaders at the finish 3 (Rugby) a loose scrum that forms around the ball when it is on the ground 4 (Australian Rules football) the three players, two ruckmen and a rover, that do not have fixed positions but follow the ball closely verb 5 [intransitive] (Rugby) to try to win the ball by mauling and scrummaging [ETYMOLOGY: C13 (meaning ``heap of firewood''): perhaps from Scandinavian; compare Old Norse hraukr rick1] ruck2 [rʌk] noun 1 a wrinkle, crease, or fold verb 2 [usually foll by up] to become or make wrinkled, creased, or puckered [ETYMOLOGY: 18th Century: from Scandinavian; related to Old Norse hrukka] ruck3 [rʌk] noun (prison slang) a fight [ETYMOLOGY: 20th Century: short for ruckus] Top #115436 - 11/08/03 09:34 AM Re: rover Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11582 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky Thanks, Dr. Bill, although these bring up more thoughts. I was pleased to see that Gurunet says scrummage (man, that sounds SO odd! [poking the borax e]) is an Alteration of SCRIMMAGE. I don't think we ever say scrim. But at least I now know that ruckmen follow the ball, though I am no closer to knowing the origin of the word. Top #115437 - 11/08/03 10:23 AM Re: rover Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 7186 Loc: Vermont ruck - rick scrum - scrim... though looking up scrim brings up the theatre curtain def. this site has a ton of info: http://poets.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/wn?cmd=wn&word=scrim _________________________ formerly known as etaoin... Top Previous Topic Index Next Topic Preview Hop to: General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. (have been consolidated into a single forum above) ------   Words from medicine   Beheading words   Meta-words   Words from classical mythology   Animal Safari   Words with unusual etymologies   Eponyms or words derived from people's names.   Loanwords from German   English as a global language Moderator:  Jackie  Print Topic Switch to Threaded Mode View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts Forum Stats 8453 Members 16 Forums 13691 Topics 210120 Posts Max Online: 3341 @ 12/09/11 02:15 PM Newest Members zhangzhen, dene13, MariaAnastasia, MNPrasad, Krysto4 8453 Registered Users Who's Online 0 registered (), 41 Guests and 2 Spiders online. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters (30 Days) LukeJavan8 93 jenny jenny 68 endymion6 68 wofahulicodoc 67 teepee 20 Rhubarb Commando 16 Faldage 14 tsuwm 9 anddrewlee 6 Jackie 4 June Su M Tu W Th F Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30

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