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#115390 11/06/03 06:01 PM
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For this reason we refer to 'orphans', pupillus, not from their status but because of their childish age. They are called pupillus as if they were without eyes, that is, bereft, orbus, of their parents. They are properly called 'orphans' if their parents died before they were named; others call them 'parentless', orbi. 'Orphan', orphanus, means the same as pupillus. The one is the Greek word; the other, the Latin;



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I do not follow this at all. What is your source, Bill?

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Makes me think of the Pirates of Pencants/Penzance/Pensance - I give up.
Makes me think of the pirates of Gilbert and Sullivan who wouldn't attack orphans. So everyone claimed to be orphans.


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Dear Bingley: I just found out I am famous! When I searched again for "etymology orphan", my post in AWADtalk headed the list! Here is the original site I posted from, scroll down about a quarter of the way:
http://www.clues.abdn.ac.uk:8080/bestiary_old/alt/translat/trans91v.html


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From another page on your source, Bill, discussing the history of the manuscript:

The first family consists of the Physiologus plus extracts from the Etymologies of Isidore of Seville. Isidore, living in Spain in the seventh century, explained the true nature of animals by analysing their names. So, a cat is called catus because he catches mice. Isidore's encyclopedic work was not moralised.

The Etymologies of Isidore of Seville can be found at: http://makeashorterlink.com/?C22D11906

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Dear Bingley: All is not gold that glitters.
Or was that "glisters"?



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