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Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 > Topic Options #114964 - 11/03/03 09:38 PM Re: In Chicago, they say ... Father Steve Carpal Tunnel Registered: 09/06/00 Posts: 2788 Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA so, how would you re-phrase the original statement? ORIGINAL STATEMENT: "Mount Marty opened as a junior college (in the midst of the Great Depression) in 1936, and its first four-year bachelor degrees were awarded on May 29, 1951." SUGGESTED ALTERNATIVE: "Mount Marty opened as a junior college (in the midst of the Great Depression) in 1936, and began to grant the four-year Bachelor of Arts degree in 1951." Top #114965 - 11/03/03 10:47 PM But... JohnHawaii member Registered: 01/17/03 Posts: 171 Loc: Hawaii, USA We don't know from the original statement that only BA degrees were awarded. BS degrees might have been awarded as well. Top #114966 - 11/04/03 05:29 AM Re: But... Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 7184 Loc: Vermont thanks, FS. and JohnH, I'll check into that. _________________________ formerly known as etaoin... Top #114967 - 11/04/03 07:39 AM Re: But... maahey addict Registered: 12/03/02 Posts: 555 Here is an example of a descriptivist triumph, and for all practical and otherwise purposes, a feminist one - Undergraduate rather than Bachelor. Top #114968 - 11/04/03 08:20 AM Re: Undergraduate AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 6511 Loc: lower upstate New York Heh, maahey. I like it. But would we possessivise it? Top #114969 - 11/04/03 08:24 AM Re: But... Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13654 Undergraduate rather than Bachelor. It has a certain aura of the oxymoron to it. Once one gets the degree one is no longer an undergraduate, is one? Top #114970 - 11/04/03 04:21 PM Re: But... Capfka Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/28/02 Posts: 1624 Loc: Utter Placebo, Planet Reebok Bachelor-level degrees are sometimes referred to as "undergraduate degrees". The expectation is that the graduate will go on to do postgraduate degrees. Since the qualification is bachelor of [pick your subject], then there is no possessive involved - the "bachelor" is merely an adjective describing "degree". Therefore it is "bachelor degree", although I have to agree with FS about its problems. The use of "undergraduate degree" probably evolved, at least in part, because of this awkwardness. Top #114971 - 11/05/03 12:29 AM Re: But... Father Steve Carpal Tunnel Registered: 09/06/00 Posts: 2788 Loc: Seattle, Washington, USA "...I have to agree with FS..." ANCIENT CHINESE PROVERB: He who agrees with pedantic priest is in good company. Top #114972 - 11/05/03 06:43 AM Re: But... Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13654 So, is it master degree? And how do you refer to the level in general? Bachelor of Arts or Science? Top #114973 - 11/05/03 07:53 AM Look at it this way, Father Steve: AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 6511 Loc: lower upstate New York Some are born pedantic; others achieve pedantry; still others have pedantry thrust upon them. Top Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 > Previous Topic Index Next Topic Preview Hop to: General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. (have been consolidated into a single forum above) ------   Words from medicine   Beheading words   Meta-words   Words from classical mythology   Animal Safari   Words with unusual etymologies   Eponyms or words derived from people's names.   Loanwords from German   English as a global language Moderator:  Jackie  Print Topic Switch to Threaded Mode View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM View homepage Add to your Watched Users View posts View profile Send a PM Add to your Watched Users View posts Forum Stats 8424 Members 16 Forums 13686 Topics 209771 Posts Max Online: 3341 @ 12/09/11 02:15 PM Newest Members teepee, smoothcriminal86, janbra, junebug, Stephen A 8423 Registered Users Who's Online 0 registered (), 41 Guests and 0 Spiders online. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters (30 Days) LukeJavan8 89 jenny jenny 62 wofahulicodoc 55 endymion6 47 Rhubarb Commando 35 BranShea 34 Buffalo Shrdlu 16 zmjezhd 14 Jackie 13 Faldage 12 May Su M Tu W Th F Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31

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