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#114753 - 10/30/03 03:18 PM What'a funny?
dxb Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 1692
Loc: UK
My grandson pointed to a ditch and stone wall arrangement in the grounds of a local Ďstately homeí and said: whatís that? I told him that it was a ha-ha. That meant a lot more explanation was needed! If you donít know of it, it is a ditch that slopes down from pastureland and has the opposite side formed from a vertical stone wall with its top level with the lawn on the garden side. The depth of the ditch and wall varies depending on what animals you aim to keep out of the garden. The object of the ha-ha was to keep farm animals out of formal gardens without spoiling the view across the grounds.

I am left wondering, is the UK is the only place that used the ha-ha (doesnít form a good plural!), and if itís used elsewhere does it have the same name? Itís a pretty simple idea, so I would guess itís common enough.



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#114754 - 10/30/03 03:51 PM Re: What'a funny?
wwh Offline
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Registered: 01/18/01
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Dear dxb: I've never heard of or seen a ha-ha in US. I think that grazing animals are seldom adjacent to large expensive estates. And an electric fence on property of animal owners would be most common solution.


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#114755 - 10/30/03 04:18 PM Re: What'a funny?
Zed Offline
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Registered: 08/27/02
Posts: 2154
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
Haven't heard of a ha-ha here but I've always loved the combination of idea and name. Our closest equivalent would be a cattle gate. It is a ditch about a meter deep crossing a road in place of a standard gate. There are round pipes set in the top perpendicular to the road about 4 inches apart so that cars can rattle across without stopping to open and close a standard gate but the cows are afraid to stepp on it and won't cross and escape.


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#114756 - 10/30/03 09:33 PM Re: What'a funny?
Jackie Offline

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This is definitely a YART, but I haven't the time to go Search, just now. But somebody, maverick I think, posted a link to a picture or two. I think it's pretty unique to the UK. I'm posting this because just last night, a good friend asked me at choir practice if I knew what it was! He said it's a good crossword puzzle word.


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#114757 - 10/31/03 09:35 AM just wanna yart the night away
dodyskin Offline
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Registered: 04/24/02
Posts: 475
Loc: manchester uk
http://snurl.com/2sk1 for a brief discussion, the site keeps on dropping out when I try to do searches so no more from me today.


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#114758 - 10/31/03 10:13 AM Re: Crossword puzzles
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Definitely a crossword puzzle word and not much else in the US&A.


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#114759 - 10/31/03 12:50 PM Re: What'a funny?
Jackie Offline

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This is the thread I was thinking of. [finishing her lunch e]
http://wordsmith.org/board/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=15439
Oh, Marty--how I regret missing my last opportunity...


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#114760 - 10/31/03 01:15 PM Misspent youth?
shanks Offline
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Registered: 03/16/00
Posts: 1004
Loc: London, UK
When I was younger I read a couple of books, by an Englishman abroad (?), who later moved to England and continued writing these works - scathingly satirical and mind-sharpeningly funny. His name: Tom Sharpe. Perhaps most famous these days for Wilt, Blott on the Landscape and Porterhouse Blue.

His first two books, however, Riotous Assembly and Indecent Exposure were set in South Africa/modern Namibia/modern Zimbabwe, and I recall (I think it was in the first book?) that the Donford Yates-reading 'English' expats there had hahas. At least, there was a moment in the book when someone fell into the haha, which had been dug so deep and wide it was a hazard to life and limb - for everybody.

The peerless Terry PRatchett, of course, has the Patrician sitting on his lawn, casually sending the leader of the Assassin's Guild into a haha designed by Berghold Stuttley (Bloody Stupid) Johnson, that was so large it was no longer a haha, but a hoho. So there are hahas on Discworld.

Any South Africans here to confirm fictional sightings of hahas in the Rainbow Nation?

cheer

the sunshine warrior


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#114761 - 11/02/03 04:42 AM Re: What's funny?
dxb Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 1692
Loc: UK
Thanks for digging that up, Jackie. I was going to provide a link but, really, that site says everything.


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#114762 - 11/02/03 11:20 AM Re: What's funny?
Jackie Offline

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Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 11609
Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
[blowing kiss e]


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