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I found the word "bibliobibuli" under the entry "read too much, people who" in The Writers Digest Flip Dictionary, but I couldn't find this word in any other dictionary I tried. I couldn't find a root for "bibuli" either. Anyone know anything about it?
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although found in tsuwm's wwftd(!) http://home.mn.rr.com/wwftd/abc.htm#B, here's from WordSpy: bibliobibuli noun. People who read too much and so are generally oblivious to world around them.
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"There are people who read too much: bibliobibuli. I know some who are constantly drunk on books, as other men are drunk on whiskey or religion. They wander through this most diverting and stimulating of worlds in a haze, seeing nothing and hearing nothing." —H. L. Mencken, Minority Report: H. L. Mencken's Notebooks
Backgrounder: This word shows up often in collections of interesting and unusual words (though rarely in conversation!). It's a combination of "biblio-" (Greek: comb. form of book) and a variant of "biblulous" (Latin: "Freely or readily drinking"). Subject Categories: Culture - Books and Magazines Language - Insults
Posted on April 12, 1997 http://www.wordspy.com/words/bibliobibuli.aspwelcome to the board, biblio!
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Hi Biblio I prefer to think of myself as a bibliophile or perhaps a bibliomet (biblio + gourmet). I can quit anytime I want to. i just don't want to, so there
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actually, this is a nonce word, coined by Mencken especially for the occasion; as per WordSpy, it's not encountered much outside of word collections.
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word collections
I like collecting bibelots. They take up much less space than tchotchkes.
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Sounds like a Yiddish word? New to me, what does it mean please?
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tchotchkes Yep, it's Yiddish, dixbie. on your next trip, skip Texas and come to NYBBC did a wonderful 8-part (I think) series in the late 70s or early 80s called "The Story of English." I borrowed the tapes from the library last year. I was cool with the Yiddish influence; got seriously befuddled in an earlier episode with speakers of two totally separate dialects in the north of English engaging in a bit of horse-trading. They managed.
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two totally separate dialects in the north of English engaging in a bit of horse-trading
The lovely AnnaS misremembers slightly. It was two separate languages: English and Danish, as spoke over a thousand years ago. They discovered that they had many roots in common but the declensional endings were miles apart. They decided to drop the declensional endings and instead to use word order to indicate case. Quantum leap in the development of the language we know and love and argue interminably about.
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Yep, it's Yiddish, dixbie
OK. Thanks. But what does it *mean?
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But what does it *mean?Oh, I thought that was clear from the context . It means knick-knacks. Do you have that word in your version of our beloved language?
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...knickknacks, gimcracks, gewgaws, whigmaleeries; we have wonderful choices for whatnots.
tchotchke (TCHOCH-keh), being Yiddish, suffers from the usual gimcrack transliteration, including (but not limited to) tsatske, tsatskele, and tchotchkele. Rosten (Joy of Yiddish) prefers tsatske (TSAHTS-keh). from Polish: tsatsko, "a toy" or "a beautiful, useless thing."
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"a beautiful, useless thing."
Kinda like Jennifer Lopez or Arnold Schwarzengger, ¿yes?
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I thought the second half of "bibliobibuli" was a play on "bibulous" meaning addicted to alcohol.
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bill, I guess this (see eta's post) got lost amongst the gimcrackery on the mantle:
It's a combination of "biblio-" (Greek: comb. form of book) and a variant of "biblulous" (Latin: "Freely or readily drinking").
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Dear tsuwm: thanks for pointing that out. Did anyone every tell you you are a bit of a shit? You may recall that when I have noticed errors you made, I send you a PM.
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Dr. Bill, I wouldn't so much call this an error as a "chopped liver/mantle" event, such as we all good-naturedly point out to each other with relative frequency on the Board. At least that's how I read it.
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>I wouldn't so much call this an error as a "chopped liver/mantle" event..
and this would be a double-decaf coffee and...; see my gimcrackery on the mantle comment. <VBG>
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Yes, that was a good use of "mantle," tsuwm. Let us remember that wwh is somewhat crotchety, and, if he lived in England, he'd have a hard time rhyming 'bit' with 'shite.' Wouldn't you, Dr Bill?
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>You may recall that when I have noticed errors you made, I send you a PM.
but for one *very notable exception, which was not even any of my doing.
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>Let us remember that wwh is somewhat crotchety,
In the same way that the Sun is somewhat warm and the cosmos somewhat large.
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Hmm--I read Dr. Bill's post as having an emphasis on the word thought, as in (aha), "I thought the second half of "bibliobibuli" was a play on "bibulous" meaning addicted to alcohol."
Edit--I find that I tend to give Dr. Bill a bit of extra leeway regarding errors: in addition to not seeing anything very well, he posted one time that he has particular difficulty reading text in blue.
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But we love 'em just the same, don't we?
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>But we love 'em just the same, don't we?
As the Fong reminded me, if the shoe doesn't fit, I won't wear it.
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I won't wear it
Or either you must acquit, one.
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Ohmigawd, how funny!!! How I would love to have seen that! Ow, ow, my stomach!
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Hello Biblio! Welcome aBoard! You started an interesting thread on your first try - congratulations. Do stay with us and contribute. often. One thing that interests me : did you lurk about and read before jumping in or did you just leap off the end of the pier, so to speak, as I did? Aloha, wow
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Thus becoming a peerless member.
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Groan-nn! But let me add my belated welcome, Biblio.
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I found the word "bibliobibuli" under the entry "read too much, people who"
What's the singular of bibliobibuli? Bibliobibulum?
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the singular of bibliobibuli
Whadda they, don't teach you no Latin in law school?
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went out with the "Paper Chase"
Well, I knew they din't never taught you to pernounce it, but, geesh, seems like you could dope out a few grammar rules.
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we just cite it
So as far as you know, when you say qui tacet consentire videtur you're really saying, "I'll shut up now and let you hang my client."
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The lovely AnnaS misremembers slightly. It was two separate languages: English and Danish, as spoke over a thousand years ago. They discovered that they had many roots in common but the declensional endings were miles apart. They decided to drop the declensional endings and instead to use word order to indicate case. Quantum leap in the development of the language we know and love and argue interminably about.
No we don't. And that's "argue about interminably" to you, buster ...
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No we don't
What you mean we?
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Thanks, everyone, for your help! I'm sorry I didn't check in earlier.
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"It is often forgotten that (dictionaries) are artificial repositories, put together well after the languages they define. The roots of language are irrational and of a magical nature." -Jorge Luis Borges, Prologue to "El otro, el mismo."
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connie, you might place the purple mantle upon your shoulders and put that in the African elephant topic, as well!
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