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#110860 08/28/03 11:33 PM
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in the "housewife/soap opera" days of yore
We called that a coffee klatch when I was growing up. Not sure how to spell it 'cos I've never seen it written.


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coffee klatch

Yep, so did we. I think it's a Yiddish word (ask tsuwm) so it could be spelled different ways but I'd be inclined to put an S in there: klatsch.


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klatsch

Yep, AnnaS, that's how I remembers it, only coffee was spelled kaffee whenever it appeared with klatsch.


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I don' know nuffin 'bout no klatches. now klezmers..
-joe (tappin' toe) klapper

edit: klatch appears to be from the German word for gossip. hence, gossip over coffee is kaffeeklatsching. :)

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well, color me murky!

b. Special combinations: coffee and (pl. coffee and, coffee ands) U.S. slang, coffee and doughnut(s) (or a roll, etc.)...

1901 WEINGARTEN, *Coffee and. 1931 ‘DEAN STIFF’ Milk & Honey Route XV. 172 The hash house where they sup plentiously [sic] on coffee-ands. 1949 Collier's 27 Aug. 27 A saloon on Stanton Street hands out ‘coffee and’ each morning.



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Bonafide and documented! Cool! Thanks, tsuwm!

So it was originally "ands" and the "ands" was a nounified conjuction that stood on its own in the phrase, so that's why we say it with the "and" accented today. When you say "coffee and donuts" the "and" drops in intonation, but in "coffee-and" the "and" rises.

Oh, and Jackie, I've always pronounced coffee "CAW-fee". Think it's a New York regional thing.


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