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#110473 08/20/03 12:55 PM
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In the end, what y'all are railing against is the use of advertising hype.


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In contradistinction to the members of the anti-enclosure movement of the late C18/early C19, who adverted against the railings?


#110475 08/20/03 04:14 PM
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I haven't yet addressed myself to the appropriate penalties for "advertising hype". Give me a minute.



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No duplications, Father Steve! Mercy, I'm so glad you're back here!


#110477 08/20/03 04:45 PM
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"Hype", when used to modify the word "advertising" is a synonym for "lying" or "untruth." It is unidirectional untruth, in that it always overstates, exaggerates, enhances and/or inflates the positive qualities of the goods or services being "hyped." It is also a form of lying which is intended by the liar to be relied upon by another to the benefit of the prevaricator. The legal definition of “fraud” is something like: “An intentional perversion of truth for the purpose of obtaining some valuable thing or promise from another.” The hyper is thus guilty of the sin (if not the crime) of fraud.

For this sin, I have imagined the following appropriate punishments: That the malefactor’s truck run out of gas while the gauge still shows a quarter tank, his spouse run off with his former best friend, his rifle jam when he has the biggest buck he’s ever seen in his sights, his microwave burn stuff on the outside while leaving the inside frozen, his television change channels ever time his neighbour uses his remote garage-door opener, and his diet pills cause him to retain water. And that's just for first offenders.



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"He put on his jacket and his courage".
There was a song lyric that went "she raised her eyes, her glass and his hopes." (Have Some Madiera M'dear. by Flanders and Swann)
"small but immense" should simply have been "small but important" or some such equivalent. It sounds to me more like a translation error than a mistake by an English speaker.


#110479 08/20/03 07:37 PM
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That the malefactor’s truck run out of gas while the gauge still shows a quarter tank, his spouse run off with his former best friend, his rifle jam when he has the biggest buck he’s ever seen in his sights, his microwave burn stuff on the outside while leaving the inside frozen, his television change channels ever time his neighbour uses his remote garage-door opener, and his diet pills cause him to retain water. And that's just for first offenders.

Yes, and for recidivism I withdraw my objection to capital punishment. Lock up the murderers and the rapists for life, by all means. But, for pity's sake, save society from the lasting damage and continuous nausea caused by advertising "executives" at work. Please. It's a matter of ... well, life and death, I guess!


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>what y'all are railing against is the use of advertising hype.

Well, I can't speak for the others with whom you so kindly lump me in , but I was not railing against the use of advertising hype. I was seeking opinions on what seemed to me to be a genuinely stupid, clumsy bit of writing that gave the appearance of being self-contradictory. That's all.


#110481 08/21/03 12:01 AM
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the appearance of being self-contradictory

I thought we'd refuted that.

One small step…


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>the appearance of being self-contradictory

I thought we'd refuted that.

Well, maybe. A case, (a strong one, imo) can still be made for saying that, using the most common definitions of both small and immense, the text is self-contradictory. Even allowing that the writer was being exceptionally precise and careful in his or her word choice, the phrasing still sounds clumsy and stupid to me.
Of course, none of this has anything to do with my last post. My last post had to do with my instinctive aversion to being told what I was thinking.
I was not one of the "y'all" who were, apparently, railing against advertising hype. And I seldom need anyone to tell me what it is that I was trying to communicate.


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