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#103914 05/22/03 12:16 PM
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tsuwm's man Jesse AND my favorite linguist, Geoff Nunberg!


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how many folks here plan on chatting in? I hope to.



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#103916 05/22/03 12:32 PM
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don't miss Jesse! here's a sample of his style, an answer to a question put to him about the difference between a couple of those rhetorical terms that get mentioned here so often:

The most important thing in any discussion like this is the fact that
most rhetorical terms aren't defined quite as precisely as one would
want or expect. I've always been interested by them, and I remember
in college going to a professor of mine, the chairman of the classics
department, to ask about some subtle distinction between two terms,
and he basically laughed and said that it was completely irrelevant.

That said, in _my_ understanding, _apophasis_ is actually saying
something specific while denying that you are going talk about it
(e.g. "I won't mention the fact that Representative Smith has been
supporting three children from adulterous relationships"), while
_paralipsis_ (in various spellings, or _pr(a)eteritio(n),_ which is
the same thing with a totally different name_) is the implication of
something more serious by deliberately concise treatment (e.g.
"I don't have time to mention Representative Jones's other faults.")



#103917 05/22/03 01:53 PM
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And here's Nunberg's home page:

http://www-csli.stanford.edu/~nunberg/Nunberg.html

(among other things, he chairs the AHD's usage panel)


#103918 05/22/03 04:52 PM
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sounds like fun

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What is this event, and is it already over?


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#103921 05/26/03 05:10 AM
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Not at 3 o'clock in the morning I won't be.

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#103922 05/26/03 01:23 PM
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Um, the link says 5pm. Pacific time, Bingley, which would be 8pm. where I am, which would be 7am. Tuesday for you. P'raps you can be late for work that day.


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don't you just love the globe?



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#103924 05/26/03 01:38 PM
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Um, GMT -7 to GMT +7 is 14 hours. 5 p.m. = 17:00 - 14 = 3 a.m. But wait, should I be adding rather than subtracting? [loss of brain cells becoming acute]

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#103925 05/26/03 01:46 PM
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I don't have a clue, I've never learned GMT.


#103926 05/26/03 02:09 PM
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Yes, I think you should be adding, since you are "ahead" of the time zone where it will take place. So I think Jackie's right about the 7am thing.


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#103928 05/26/03 03:26 PM
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looks like you should join us for breakfast, Bingley!


of course, it's 11:30 PM there now, so he's probably abed!


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#103929 05/26/03 05:20 PM
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he's probably abed
Erm, no, I have reason to believe he's still a man...


#103930 05/26/03 06:07 PM
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*rimshot

"thank you, thank you very much. we're here every night."



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#103931 05/26/03 08:46 PM
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Faldage and I are going to try to post at the chat individually, on one computer, using two browsers. If that doesn't work, well, know that we're both there!

(eta and Jackie, y'all're too much... )


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As far as I can tell, if this chat is scheduled for 5-6 pm PST, it will be 8-9 pm EST for me. Someone please reassure me!


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5-6 pm PST, it will be 8-9 pm EST

Sure nuff!


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sounds right to me!



I really like your artwork!



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#103935 05/26/03 10:30 PM
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Might be a good idea to go ahead and enter the chat now, just to make sure your browser works, etc. It says it wants your full name and country, but there deisn't seem to be room for both. I've just logged in as AnnaStrophic.


#103936 05/27/03 12:11 AM
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well, that was fun!



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#103937 05/27/03 12:52 PM
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Yeah, and interesting, too! I hope more folks will show for the next chat.


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I wish I could have joined in; but you guys asked great questions!

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as to his response to the question of the high cost of online access, I doubt they'll ever change their marketing philosophy--the same one which has the 20-volume sets mostly in libraries or writer's hands and so forth. (BTW, for the 75th anniversary you can now buy the set for the low price of $895 US.)


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I missed you there, tsuwm. Is the transcript of the chat already available? Or were you lurking? (-;


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late last night it was inline to the announcement--not as yet linked.


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