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In Spanish-speaking South America, if I recall rightly, both sons and daughters taken their parents' names in the same order. So if Price is the father, both would be Price de Jones. This seems like the mother's surname wins out, but when they are abbreviated, it's to Price.
Good question on the two hyphenated people, Zed. I've often wondered that myself! I don't know anyone in those circumstances, can anyone here help out?
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the two hyphenated peopleA similar thing has happened. In armory, if an armigerous woman marries an armigerous man they will quarter their arms. If one of their armigerous children marries another armigerous person the quartered arms can be either quartered or impaled with the arms of the other person. If that other person also bears quartered arms, hoo boy! It can start getting perty dang ugly in just a few generations. http://www.baronage.co.uk/bpgif-01/buthlaw1.jpg
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To jump back one post. Both are born as Price de Jones but when she marries she drops one and I think it is the matrilinneal name that is lost so that her kids become Smith de Price'es. (and if she marries Sr Lower they would be, with apologies, Lower de Prices)
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Actually, in Mexico, only married women have their surname attached to the husband's surname by using de. Juan Gonzalez Ramirez marries Maria Lopez Montoya. Juan remains Juan Gonzalez Ramirez. Maria becomes Maria Lopez de Gonzalez and their children are Jesus Gonzalez Lopez and Rosa Gonzalez Lopez. etc. etc.
Two hyphenateds who marry and have children could pose a problem if each kept their own names, I suppose. If they insisted on hyphenating the child's name, the logical progression would be the father's paternal surname hyphenated to the mother's paternal surname. My daughter married an unhyphenated type and took his name, so this will not be a problem for them.
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I seems that Spanish Basques don't use "de" either. A friend has as her surname Txopitea La Plaza (reverted to her birth name), and her daughter's surname is Kamura Txopitea. In both instances the mother's "maiden" name comes last.
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I was told after commiting an embarrassing faux pa sThere I go again! Head-slap to the forehead-e] by adding a superfluous de that only snobby, uppity Spaniards had the audacity to use it any other way than that which I have outlined above  BTW, faux paux - googled - 4840 faux pax - googled - 2480 faux-pax - googled - 1240 faux-paux -googled - 1410 faux -pax - googled - 800,000 Guess you gotta watch where you put the spaces. I saw faux paux on a listing in French so I am assuming that to be the correct spelling. It's late and I don't think in French.
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faux -pax - googled - 800,000
Guess you gotta watch where you put the spaces.
good heavens, yes -- that's a special form that gets you all the occurrences of faux that *don't include pax!
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all the occurrences of faux that *don't include pax!
Which would, of course, include the correct faux pas.
[obviousizing ron]
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faux pax
What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
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faux pax
Beware of the space: it's A false Separate Peace.
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