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but it's still an expression, no? or is there some sort of Capital E Expression?
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but it's still an expression, no?
Yes, it is, but the little explanatory story that has grown up beside it seems like folklore to me. Moreover, I like it as a figure of speech, I just don't buy its provenance.
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but it's still an expression, no?
Yes, it is, but the little explanatory story that has grown up beside it seems like folklore to me. Moreover, I like it as a figure of speech, I just don't buy its provenance. and I can agree with that.
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...The context is a vaguely Christian one (I saw one person saying it was an Orthodox bishop's favorite saying). Here's an example: link. In it's poresent form it seems to go back no further than the '80s. I would like to meet the Orthodox Bishop in question, because the idea of a soul that is separable while the person is alive is more shamanistic than Christian methinks. You are right, it does have all the marks of being a folklore story. But the "letting the soul catch up" part also has the ring of truth, or matches experience, in a way that many urban legends don't...
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But the "letting the soul catch up" part also has the ring of truth, or matches experience, in a way that many urban legends don't.
I suppose it does, if you believe in souls and such. One of the things about folklore is that one's own often seems obvious and true, while that of others is superstitious and patently obviously wrong.
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but it's still an expression, no? or is there some sort of Capital E Expression? I thought 'an expression' meant this: A particular word or phrase: "an old Yankee expression . . . 'Stand up and be counted'" (Charles Kuralt). , but searching the vocabularies it seems to have a less limited meaning. I still think this 'soul catching up thing' is more than an urban legend and has a serious origin in old beliefs; an acceptable 'phenomenon'.
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But the "letting the soul catch up" part also has the ring of truth, or matches experience, in a way that many urban legends don't.
I suppose it does, if you believe in souls and such. One of the things about folklore is that one's own often seems obvious and true, while that of others is superstitious and patently obviously wrong. "Soul" to me is a shorthand for the whole phenomenology of subjective experience. Wow, what lovely jargon! But I mean, the fact that we have subjective experience at all and also the wild variety of things we experience subjectively. And whether the usage of "soul" is fair for this - is it fair to use the word for "amber" (elektron) for an invisible sometimes particle sometimes wave that carries a negative charge? And no, I think other people's folklore is often just packed with value - that is how this topic got started. Ah noble Zmjezhd, how can I bear to disagree with you twice in one post. But perhaps you will forgive me?
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how can I bear to disagree with you twice in one post
We're probably closer in our thinking than would seem by my postings. I love folklore. It and language reveal much about people and their cultures. As for soul, élan vital, ψυχη / psykhe, anima, what have you, as a metaphor it's A-OK with me. As for electra, I prefer quarks, at least the German dairy product.
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but it's still an expression, no? or is there some sort of Capital E Expression? I thought 'an expression' meant this: A particular word or phrase: "an old Yankee expression . . . 'Stand up and be counted'" (Charles Kuralt). , but searching the vocabularies it seems to have a less limited meaning. I still think this 'soul catching up thing' is more than an urban legend and has a serious origin in old beliefs; an acceptable 'phenomenon'. I think the "story" about it is a legend, but the phrase itself is an expression.
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I think the "story" about it is a legend, but the phrase itself is an expression.
Yes, I concur.
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