Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 4
S
Sunsh49 Offline OP
stranger
OP Offline
stranger
S
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 4
Firstly, Hello. I enjoy much of this forum, so I have joined.
Secondly, is there a term for a word where a negative exists but the opposite doesn't, or at least is not in common use.
For example: "unkempt" I've never heard anyone described as "kempt" even though it may well exist.
Any other examples welcome. I have a list somewhere on my PC.
Best regards to all from Yorkshire

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 9,916
Likes: 2
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 9,916
Likes: 2


WELCOME SUNS....


----please, draw me a sheep----
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,295
Welcome Sunsh49. Maybe you should take a look at this:
> > kempt
They may exist though; I would not know a term but someone might.

Last edited by BranShea; 12/15/10 10:31 PM.
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 4
S
Sunsh49 Offline OP
stranger
OP Offline
stranger
S
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 4
Well yes, I did say it may well exist, but it's not a word I ever recall seeing, much less hearing.

Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 10,542
this may be of some interest, regarding lost positives; it's from a mailing I sent to my subs. list on 04/07/09..

the worthless word for the day is: sheveled

[by shortening] (also shevelled)
rare, archaic : disheveled

"He bowed his tall white head into my shevelled hair."
- Richard Blackmore, Erema (1877)

"After the prisoner was delivered to Lexington the
next day in sheveled and humbled state, the posse was
dismissed..."
- Reese Prescott, The Rockbridge County Gazette,
June 28, 1904

(but)
"Is sheveled the opposite of disheveled? Recreational
linguists call these words lost positives."
- Charles Elster, What in the Word? (2005)

"She was a descript person, a woman in a state of
total array. Her hair was kempt, her clothing shevelled,
and she moved in a gainly way."
- Jack Winter; The New Yorker, 25 July 1994
___

you never know how a prefix is going to effect things;
some expect that sheveled existed as a positive form
(as happened with couth and kempt), but in this case
the word was formed (as per OED) by aphesis.
this week: lost positives, or not



here's a link to the entire content of the Jack Winter citation
link

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 655
addict
Offline
addict
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 655
A friend and I went through a period of describing ourselves as "sheveled and gruntled," which I mention just to toss another lost negative into this conversation. Was there a time when a contented individual was said to be gruntled?


"I don't know which is worse: ignorance or apathy. And, frankly, I don't care." - Anonymous
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 655
addict
Offline
addict
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 655
Another overly-discovered lost negative is "ert." It was used in the movie, "Private Benjamin," and I've heard it elsewhere, too. A man who respects and admires women is never called a "gynist," and one who is functioning with all faculties intact is never called "capacitated." Unafflicted people are not blessed with muscular trophy; in fact, medicine offers a windfall of negative words, all of whose opposites are "healthy," since many pathologies are named for the malfunctioning of some system, part or organ.


"I don't know which is worse: ignorance or apathy. And, frankly, I don't care." - Anonymous
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,706
Pooh-Bah
Offline
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,706
Good topic Sunsh

...and Beck, you are so right, so many negatives in medicine... what about the word invalid> I can't think of positive for that one.

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,210
Carpal Tunnel
Offline
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,210
Originally Posted By: Candy
Good topic Sunsh

...and Beck, you are so right, so many negatives in medicine... what about the word invalid> I can't think of positive for that one.


nothing that's valid, anyway...

;¬ )


formerly known as etaoin...
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 956
old hand
Offline
old hand
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 956

nothing that's valid, anyway...


praps not in a medical sense.

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  Jackie 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Statistics
Forums16
Topics13,913
Posts229,331
Members9,182
Most Online3,341
Dec 9th, 2011
Newest Members
Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV
9,182 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
2 members (A C Bowden, wofahulicodoc), 1,258 guests, and 1 robot.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters(30 Days)
Top Posters
wwh 13,858
Faldage 13,803
Jackie 11,613
wofahulicodoc 10,542
tsuwm 10,542
LukeJavan8 9,916
AnnaStrophic 6,511
Wordwind 6,296
of troy 5,400
Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 1994-2024 Wordsmith

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5