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#7822 10/19/00 11:07 PM
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In this case, the term gender was very helpful.

Good point, enrique. Reiterates very clearly that the distinction between sex and gender is an important one.

But would your student have checked "male" or "female" on application forms that said Sex ? If this sounds flippant or rhetorical, it isn't meant to be. For, as you say, her sex was male. Of course, she could have written an appropriate comment at that point in the form and/or complained to whoever issued it. But there may have been good reasons for the form's issuer wanting to know the applicant's sex. Again, gender may be relevant in some cases; in fact, it may be more relevant, in that it will often relate to how the person filling out the form wishes to be identified. So should there be a separate area on the form in which gender is specified?

And should trans-sexuals be referred to as "he" or "she"? Probably by whichever term relates to their gender; but you could argue that's providing incomplete information. Is the missing information at all important or relevant to others?
In which case we need a word that relates to "he" & "she" as "Ms" relates to "Mrs", perhaps.

My point is that our language and society really has a way to go before it can handle trans-sexuality. Which is a bit ironic in that it isn't really something new.

Phew, I'm going for a nice cold drink after that..



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I'm an acting teacher

A teacher of acting, or acting as a teacher (on a short-term basis presumably)?


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or a teacher who acts?


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>I was going to say that maybe we don't talk about sex with strangers, but then FishonaBike is the only stranger in this thread. ...someone restrain me before I start on the members and addicts...

Back from sunning myself. Finally made it through to this thread (she said voyeuristically Mav, seeking urgent reviving alcohol).

Only, I think is Shona isn't a stranger any more - you'll need to look amongst the members (105 posts since 11th October - is that a record?!)


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seeking urgent reviving alcohol

Internal or external? Welcome back Jo.

I just love the thought of every visitor, whether contributor or voyeur, going to a string called SEX and hitting the Show All button.


#7827 10/23/00 09:43 PM
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105 posts since 11th October - is that a record?!

I don't know, Jo - but it's definitely a bit excessive!
I'm going to try to be a bit more laid-back now I'm a member.

Famous last words.


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>>"I'm going to try to be a bit more laid-back now I'm a member"


...and the sun shall rise in the West and Atlantis shall rise from the sea....




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I'm going to try to be a bit more laid-back now I'm a member.

...as in drop back a gear but keep pedalling, or freewheel completely?


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...and the sun shall rise in the West and Atlantis shall rise from the sea....
..and the Mediterranian shall dry out again, all fishes awading away



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...and the sun shall rise in the West and Atlantis shall rise from the sea....
..and the Mediterranean shall dry out again, all fishes awading away

...and never again shall cabbages cause kings to break wind

Great imagery bel, wsieber. A touch of W.H.Auden in there somewhere, methinks!

I'm freewheeling, Marty.
All the way down from the top of this mountain to the bottom of the sea...





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