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#48446 11/22/01 02:52 PM
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'foul play' is an odd expression -- how did sport intrude?
why not 'foul act', or 'foul deed'?

What fowle play had we, that we came from thence? -WS, Tempest


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Oh, brave new world!

Fowl act: gobbled its last gobble; 'twas its swan song...


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Imagine eating swans and herons, as they did in Elizabethan days. As my wife's favorite grandfather used to say, you couldn't put a fork in the gravy.


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Mebbe they ate herons during the Gold Rush,too, wwh. Mebbe Clementine wore heron boxes, #9, instead of herring boxes on her feet before succumbing to the bubbling brine... If said heron boxes lead to her demise, that would be an example of fowl play.

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I never tasted any, but there used to be jokes about coot, which eat mostly fish, which gives taste few people like. There used to be a recipe for cooking them, which involved nailing them to a shingle, baking three hours, thowing the coot away and eating the shingle. I doubt very much that the early Colonists ate the Turkeys that were numerous, but too wary to be killed with weapons Colonists had. Remember, Ben Fanklin wanted the Turkey to be made the National emblem, because it was so smart.


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wwh, we're making a valliant effort of keeping this turkey going.

I've never heard of eating coot shingles, or maybe shingles à la coot, but we have a traditional shad planking here in Virginia where shad are nailed to a plank, smoked, and then eaten. I don't believe Virginians eat the planks.

Speaking of Ben Franklin, I remember having read that he invented a device for getting items off high shelves. You wouldn't happen to know the name of that device, would you?

Lusty Ben sometimes used it to Store Richard's Alamanc on the uppermost shelf of his library.

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coot shingles Dr. Bill, how would you treat a case of coot shingles? Or does this lapse too much into the veterinary for your expertise?

eating coot shingles A very tedious meal, indeed, WW!




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Mebbe Clementine wore heron boxes, #9, instead of herring boxes.

Dear Dub-Duck:
that bit of distorted history is a foul canard.
a mis-read herring, for which you should be paddled.
(quacking-up -e)


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Ever-alert for beastly terms, the adjective for ducklike is (roll of drums with percussive paddles) anatine!

Oh, my duckling, oh, my duckling, oh, my duc......
ling, Anatine!

Best canards,
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anatidaephobia - the fear that somewhere, somehow, a duck is watching you

q: what quacks, is dangerous and lives in a marsh?
a: a duck with a machine gun.


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Well, I hope no one had to eat coot shingles or peanut butter sandwiches for Thanksgiving, which just happens to remind me of another phobia yeah, right! I was looking up tsuwm's anatidaephobia

Arachibutyrophobia: the fear of having peanut butter stick in the roof of the mouth.


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Surely, somewhere, there is someone who eats planks constantly.



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Well, gosh, Ted, anything that eats plankton! Lemme see, where's me food chain reference?


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Speaking of Ben Franklin, I remember having read that he invented a device for getting items off high shelves. You wouldn't happen to know the name of that device, would you?

A ladder?


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Well, shut my mouth, Jazz! To think no one had thought of ladders till the 18th century! I guess they must have just wheeled around the stoops of stone to get to upper stories prior to Ben!


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Hey Ladies!
Am I crazy or have the Gentlemen just started a food thread!


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Surely, somewhere, there is someone who eats planks constantly.

Sorry, TEd. I appreciate it if no one else does. A bit like traffic nose to tail on the M69, really.

Think of it as a form of Planck's constant ...



The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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>I appreciate it if no one else does.

just 'cuz we're not groaning "aloud" doesn't mean we're not groaning.


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Capital K: Does Planck's constant have eeniethin' to do with
the mathom principle?

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q: what quacks, is dangerous and lives in a marsh?
a: a duck with a machine gun.


Hey, tswum!...I'd say TEd owes you $50 bucks for that one! Did'ja send him the bill! I don't think the dumbness inferential works here!


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"anatidaephobia
the fear that somewhere, somehow, a duck is watching you (coined by Gary Larson, The Far Side)"
A note on the above quote from the highly astute tsuwm's catalogue of words:

When you search anatidaephobia on One Look Dictionaries, tsuwm's is the only one that lists anatidaephobia.

I'll suggest another he may choose to add to his catalogue, one created just for him:

anatidaffobia: the fear that somewhere, somehow, a well-know Looney tune duck is watching you.

Quacked up,
WoodDuck

PS: What do you call those whistles that make duck, turkey, and nightingale sounds? Are they just called duck calls, turkey calls, and nightingale calls?


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A-hem: [stern look at all the silliness posts e]
'foul play' is an odd expression -- how did sport intrude?
Well, could it have transferred over from the expression "fair or foul"? Fair used to be an adjective used to describe a good-looking female, among other things; point being that it has long been associated with positives. So, if any kind of interaction (business deal, a sport) occurred more or less as expected, it could have been described as fair. And I'll bet foul just developed as the "natural" opposite.



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Well, we are certainly all fair ladies here, aren't we, and all else are foul and most definitely not fowl.


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Well, not really. Though at two different times I owned the US equivalent of a Fairlady. The first one I called Eliza and the second one Audrey.



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he Spirit sings:
SABRINA fair

Listen where thou art sitting

Under the glassie, cool, translucent wave,

In twisted braids of Lillies knitting

The loose train of thy amber-dropping hair,
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Listen for dear honour's sake,

Goddess of the silver lake,

Listen and save!


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"Well, not really. Though at two different times I owned the US equivalent of a Fairlady.
The first one I called Eliza and the second one Audrey. "

Dear TEd: I figured out you called the first one Eliza, because it would Doolittle.
I haven't been able to figure out why you called the second one Audrey.


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Eliza Doolittle, true, wwh, was a fair lady--

And Audren Hepburn played her--

And Ted could have owned them both in the form of a videotape...or recording of some other kind...

??


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'foul play' is an odd expression -- how did sport intrude?
Well, could it have transferred over from the expression "fair or foul"?

But, but ... "fair or foul" is a sports term. See: baseball - base runner - line drive - along foul line - waiting for ump's signal...


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My understanding: My Fair Lady had been a huge stage success, starring Julie Andrews. But when it came time to cast the movie version the producers, seeking the box-office appeal of a "star" name, passed over Ms. Andrews and selected Ms. Hepburn -- who unfortunately cannot sing. The difficulty was resolved by having her songs dubbed ... by Ms. Andrews.

Which hardly seems fair to the original fair lady.

Ms. Andrews, however, had the last laugh. Not being occupied with the production of My Fair Lady, she was available to take the lead in another movie, which proved rather successful: The Sound of Music.

Edit: Sparteye, below, is correct in her correction.

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Well, Andrews' dubbing is ironic, isn't it? Oh, wrong thread. Sorry.

It's also ironic that we're discussing Doolittle and Hepburn in light of the PM that was sent me today.
Still, wrong thread. Sorry again.

What is the adjective for turkey

Not dubbed,
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So, I take it wwh is correct in his masterful deduction.

Did Hepburn burn something?

Buoiliantly,
Dipstick


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Audrey Hepburn's singing in My Fair Lady was dubbed by Marni Nixon. Hepburn recorded the songs in MFL, and (I have seen clips of her original performances) it was passable singing, but the producers decided to dub it anyway. Marni Nixon also dubbed for Natalie Wood in West Side Story.

Dub arose as a shortening and alteration of double.


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I owned in earlier years both a 1972 Datsun 250Z and a 1974 Datsun 260Z, two-seater sports coupes. But what I really wanted was the Japanese model, which had right hand drive and was dubbed a Fairlady. I've no idea why it had that model name.

I named the first one Eliza and the second one Audrey, because they were both my Fairladies.

A friend had one that had become something of a street rod. He tucked a 350 cubic inch V-8 into it, and it fairly screamed. His personlized license plate said DESIRE. Yep. A street car named DESIRE. YCLIU!



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If anyone has not seen Vivien Leigh in this, please do not miss it. Also, she is at her best in "Waterloo Bridge," which I unequivocally recommend if you haven't seen that one.

Pardon the tangent, but these jewels are too good to pass by, especially with so much trash being made today...

Off my stump,
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