No "pardon my saying so" needed, byb. I was tentative in my info (I should have so indicated more clearly), and you're well ahead of me on this one. Later edit: Mine certainly was a durn-fool comment, wasn't it?

I tried a bit of googling throuh "talmud", without success.

However, Flirt insists that I first google to demolish dr. bill's defamation. As FDR said in his Fala speech, Well, of course, I don't resent attacks, and my family doesn't resent attacks, but [Flirt] does resent them. [S]he has not been the same dog since. I am accustomed to hearing malicious falsehoods about myself. But I think I have a right to resent, to object to libelous statements about my dog."