And exactly where do you hang out that there are often women who are not 'ladies' hanging about?

1 Why, this board, of course, dear. That was established by an exchange some time ago:

bel: There are ladies present Mister, thank-you very much
shona: Are there?? Where?
[end of exchange]

2 At home. My wife is of course the most refined of ladies, but our dog has, unhappily, shown herself to be of very easy virtue.