yeahbut. archie doesn't know how to do the sign I used, Dr Bill. My point was the linguistic one made now by Keiva.

though of all the wines in all the world (and I do my share in sampling their bounty) I would have to say that retsina's taste is fearfully reminiscent of the smell of the foul loo cleaning agent used in school lavatories in my youth, so you can stick that where the sun shines not!