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Nevertheless I don't think that you can settle this question by referring to Latin grammar.Exactly. In situ, in English, can be either an adjective or an adverb. Even the dictionary agrees with me. QED.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Usually to described where a patients dentures are (after surgery and returning to the ward). And that would be where? In a glass by the side of the patient's bed? In the patient's mouth? Stomach? Was that a rhetorical Q LOL just in case not..... dentures in situ adverb: In their original place
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Usually to described where a patients dentures are (after surgery and returning to the ward). And that would be where? In a glass by the side of the patient's bed? In the patient's mouth? Stomach? Was that a rhetorical Q LOL just in case not..... dentures in situ adverb: In their original place Ah! So, back in the dentist's office.
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Nevertheless I don't think that you can settle this question by referring to Latin grammar.Exactly. In situ, in English, can be either an adjective or an adverb. Even the dictionary agrees with me. QED. I wouldn't know a prescriptivist if I saw one. Yesterday I recalled having heard the rule prohibiting sentence-final prepositions. I googled and found this... "The problem is, English is not Latin, an insight lost on prescriptivists. Latin has cases and every Latin preposition is associated with a case. For example, the word for "wine" in Latin is vinum. However, the prepositional phrase corresponding to "in wine" is in vino (as in 'in vino veritas'; 'wine brings out the truth') ending on the Ablative case marker, -o, because in was associated with the Ablative case. So the suffix of vin-o identifies the noun vin-um as the object of the preposition in and not the object of any other preposition in the sentence; in short, they go together." ...from the collected works of the phantom linguist. Ending a sentence with a preposition clicked for me...thanks
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Yesterday I recalled having heard the rule prohibiting sentence-final prepositions.
The false rule of English usage (not really a grammar rule) was invented by the poet Dryden, who was so obsessed by it that he re-edited all his earlier works to weed it out. So misguided. Even Bishop Lowth, probably the greatest 18th century normative grammarian, poked gentle fun at this "rule" by mildly denouncing it with a sentence that ended in a preposition.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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"The Preposition is often separated from the Relative which it governs, and joined to the Verb at the end of the Sentence, or of some member of it: as, " Horace is an author, whom I am much delighted with." " The world is too well bred to shock authors with a truth, which generally their booksellers are the first that inform them of [2]." This is an idiom, which our language is strongly inclined to: it prevails in common conversation, and suits very well with the familiar style in writing: but the placing of the Preposition before the Relative is more graceful, as well as more perspicuous." - Bp Robert Lowth, A short introduction to English grammar
so that's the key: be more perspicuous in your usage!!
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so that's the key: be more perspicuous in your usage!!
Ain't that the truth!
I have a copy of Lowth's Short Intro, and I cherish it. Though, now, of course, it's available in some countries online at Google Books.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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