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I wrote down something our minister said in his sermon; I think it is a quote, but I didn't note from whom. Anyway, I wonder what you all think about this: The purpose of a Liberal Arts education is to free the mind from ignorance, fear, prejudice and superstition.
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I've always wondered what 'liberal arts' exactly means compared to just art. What does the 'liberal' mean. Is there a clear distinction between art and liberal art?
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I've always wondered what 'liberal arts' exactly means compared to just art.
The liberal arts are those suitable for study by freemen, in Latin liber. The originally consisted of seven arts (fields): the trivium (i.e., grammar, logic, and rhetoric) and the quadrivium (i.e., arithmetic, astronomy, geometry, and music)). Latin ars, artis, is more 'skill' or 'craft' than what we call art today. It corresponds to Greek τεχνη (tekhnē). I have often wondered how the term fine arts (French beaux arts, Spanish bellas artes) developed over time.
You see the same sort of development in the word science and history. In Latin scientia 'knowledge' corresponds to Greek ιστορια (historia). Both these words are related to English wit, German wissen 'to know'.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Just guessing that when ars, art is more skill or craft it may just have resulted from the development in skills and craft from coarse in the begin times to the refined stages it reached later on. (de schone kunsten)
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it may just have resulted from the development in skills and craft from coarse in the begin times to the refined stages it reached later on
Yes, probably so. Heidegger talks about techne in his Die Frage nach der Technik (The Question Concerning Technology). In his Der Ursprung des Kunstwerkes (The Origin of the Work of Art ), which is worth reading, he discusses van Gogh's painting of a pair of peasant boots.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Oi, sorry. This one slipped my attention as I take no email notifications. I've made a note of the book. For a semi shoe fetishist this sounds interesting, even if it's written by Heidegger
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Yes. It would be fascinating to read about the technique of this particular painting even if I know nothing about art. Just the mention of the painting brings its image. VG said his aim in painting is to convey to the viewer what he felt when he looked upon the subject. How uncomplicated and wonderful is that?
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A painter's aim is not always reached. That's why it will be interesting to read Heidegger's vieuw on the boots. I only hope my reading list will not outgrow my days.
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If you have other things to read first, I'll borrow Heidegger from you, just like I'm taking Jackie out for a thank you drink for helping me hack a Y off my user name.
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It will be hard to borrow what I will still have to borrow from the library
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