Wow. smile That's a strong, sharp oration. Yet I doubt if, had Cesare Borgia not died of an unfortunate illness the outcome would have been that different. There were too many forces involved. Henry VIII had for personal, more vital reasons a motive to favor Protestantism and oppose the Vatican. The Netherlands had much to gain by it in their fight against The Spanish. And more than I can up with may have been important. ( quite a quote !)

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