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 Originally Posted By: BranShea
Maybe someone should have asked Camus this question:

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Even Web 2.0 can't vanquish absurdity. Good—I think.

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 Originally Posted By: morphememedley
Even Web 2.0 can't vanquish absurdity.


some would say that for web 2.0 to vanquish absurdity it would have to destroy itself.

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 Originally Posted By: BranShea
Maybe someone should have asked Camus this question:



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The joke was rather cheap, true. But we can face The Absurd in various ways:
The Faith, the Sysiphian contentment with our "ordeal", the Beauty of it All or the Comic. (suicide and oblivian as negative options)I chose the easiest way out, but.. I'll try my bit:

Existentialism is a philosophical and literary movement that puts individual liberty up front as well as individual, subjective responsability. Existentialism considers every person a unique entity, a unique being who is master of his own acts and destiny, but also -for better or worse- for the values he decides to embrace.

Camus found in the myth of Sysiphus the perfect metaphor for his existentialism. He founded his reasoning on numerous philosophical treaties (below) and writers such as Dostoïevski and Kafka.

The existentialists make a distiction between 'anxieté' and 'angoisse'. Maybe corresponding with 'anxiety and angst' ?
For Kierkegaard 'angst' is born from liberty and is the discovery of a freedom which, while it is nothing, is dressed with infinite power.
For Heidegger, 'angst' is the very essence of mankind and reveals its fond. For Sartre, angst and anxiety blend. 'Angst' is at the same time angst in front of liberty and in front of the nothingness of death.
'Angst' is not ' fear'. Fear is for exterior things: the world and the others. But angst is in the confrontation with one's self.

Philosophic definition:
"The fact of << living in a myth of Sysiphus >> means that one lives in a repetitive absurd situation of which one never sees end nor purpose.

I've read Camus when I was rather young (my snoot) and remember The Pest and The Stranger as good with no unclearness. I remember having found Sysiphus difficult. Would have to read it again .

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yeahbut what was the picture of?


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Eh, Sysiphus' big rock replaced by an inflatable ball
struck me as funny. But it may be a very subjective piece of fun.
I love lame jokes, (sorry) and sardines.

Here's a multitude of paraphrases:

Rocks


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Hydra! What's up? This clever cartoon keeps disappearing and appearing like the Cheshire cat! \:D I agree that once was quite enough of the thing.

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I enjoyed your post, BranShea, and like I say, I have no problem with Camus' philosophy. I just think he could have knocked it off in ten pages. But maybe I've been reading too much Borges.

I haven't read Camus' non-fiction yet; but if you say it's different to Sisyphus, that's quite a recommendation.

I consider myself a grateful reader. When I start a book, I really, really want to like it. I have only read a handful of books I absolutely hated, and Sisyphus is at the very top. (Followed by At-Swim-Two-Birds by O'Brien, followed by The Glass Bead Game by Hesse, followed by On the Road by Kerouac).

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here's a link to the beach ball cartoon, originally from The New Yorker, and your Big Rock is (usu.) spelled boulder.

-joe (candy mountain) friday

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