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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread at the edge of the shoulder, there is a #133531 09/27/04 04:34 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park of troy OP Carpal Tunnel OP of troy Carpal Tunnel Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park ARMSCYE i have knit since age 8, and sewn since i was a teen, and recently i came across this word in a sweater pattern. armscye Pronunciation: (ärm'sI, -zI), [key] —n. the armhole opening in a garment. Also,arms•eyePronunciation: (ärmz'I"). [key] (found it in one dictionary, using Onelook.) i understood it, but had never seen or heard it before. Since my parents were from ireland, i often heard words that i don't use--or heard words used in ways that are not common to US english--i don't think its a UK/English english word. anyone else familier for this word to describe the hole in the side of a garment that is where you place the sleeve? my other obsession Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: at the edge of the shoulder, there is a #133532 09/27/04 04:40 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California J jheem veteran jheem veteran J Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,475 California Interesting word. Not in the OED 1st edition. A knitting magazine had an etymology of arm's eye. May be a folk etymology, maybe not. Addendum: found a ref to a Scots word scye (or sey) that means opening. http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cloth/glossary.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: at the edge of the shoulder, there is a #133533 09/28/04 01:21 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky I hadn't heard of this word before, Helen, although arm's eye was my first guess. But usually, don't we take olde spellings and modernize them? This appears to be the reverse of that. Although--perhaps arm's eye WAS spelled that way, way back, and simply wasn't ever used enough to be modernized...? To you experts: does cye mean anything; or rather, did it, maybe in ME or OE? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: at the edge of the shoulder, there is a #133534 09/28/04 01:46 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Jackie Carpal Tunnel Jackie Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 11,613 Louisville, Kentucky Ooh, thanks, Bingley: Armscye (Armseye) It's not a term that is particularly medieval, but it gets tossed around a lot in medieval clothing discussions. It means 'Armhole', or that roundish place in the body of a garment that the sleeve gets set into. OED "Scye - The opening in a coat into which a sleeve is inserted. 1st listed use is 1825 JAMIESON Suppl. s.v. Sey, The sey of a gown or shift is the opening through which the arm passes. Etymology is listed as "A use of a Scots and Ulster dialect word (written also sey, sci, si, sie, sy in glossaries) meaning ‘the opening of a gown, etc., into which the sleeve is inserted; the part of the dress between the armpit and the chest’ (E.D.D.); of obscure etymology. Armseye is listed in a description of 'Dolman' (sleeves) in the OED, dated to 1934. From: http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cloth/glossary.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,913 Posts229,412 Members9,182 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV 9,182 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 members (), 907 guests, and 3 robots. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 37 A C Bowden 28 LukeJavan8 4 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 wofahulicodoc 10,583 tsuwm 10,542 LukeJavan8 9,922 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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