#187866 - 11/18/09 10:20 PM
Re: stunned
[Re: olly]
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Carpal Tunnel
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re⋅dact  /rɪˈdækt/ [ri-dakt]
–verb (used with object)
1. to put into suitable literary form; revise; edit.
2. to draw up or frame (a statement, proclamation, etc.).
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Origin:
1350–1400; ME < L redāctus (ptp. of redigere to lead back), equiv. to red- red- + āctus, ptp. of agere to lead; see act
Related forms:
re⋅dac⋅tion, noun
re⋅dac⋅tion⋅al, adjective
re⋅dac⋅tor, noun Dictionary.com Retracted darned near fits, olly, in your example.
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#187869 - 11/19/09 06:59 AM
Re: stunned
[Re: Jackie]
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These features have changed. " Poll Manager( Total Polls: 0) Add this thread to my Watched Topics. Add my signature to this post. " "HTML is enabled. UBBCode is enabled.... "---not really. That's why I can't read your post well , Jackie.  What's with this Post Poll Manager? This world is managed, advised and polled to pieces. What's going on? Are the targets not hit? ( well, maybe it's the weather) Oh, sorry, there still is THE LINK.
Edited by BranShea (11/19/09 08:50 AM)
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#187871 - 11/19/09 08:41 AM
Re: stunned
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Wiktionary says:
"1. Edited or censored.
The government released the redacted document, but most of it was blacked out as secret."
Also at Searchcio,
http://searchcio.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid182_gci1029839,00.html we have
" - To redact is to edit, or prepare for publishing. Frequently, a redacted document, such as a memo or e-mail message, has simply had personal (or possibly actionable) information deleted or blacked out; as a consequence, redacted is often used to describe documents from which sensitive information has been expunged"
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#187877 - 11/19/09 03:52 PM
Re: stunned
[Re: TheFallibleFiend]
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I wonder if this isn't just another example of an existing word taking on new meanings until ultimately you'll be able to write anything at all with a series of words chosen at random, the recipient of which will read into it anything he wishes http://wordsmith.org/board/ubbthreads.php/topics/187677/2So olly grit your teeth, bear up, and just drive on
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#187888 - 11/19/09 09:48 PM
Re: stunned
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I wonder if this isn't just another example of an existing word taking on new meanings until ultimately you'll be able to write anything at all with a series of words chosen at random, the recipient of which will read into it anything he wishes.
That's just nice.
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#187896 - 11/20/09 01:37 PM
Re: stunned
[Re: Faldage]
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Hi Fal good to hear from you again
But what's nice
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#187898 - 11/20/09 03:49 PM
Re: stunned
[Re: Faldage]
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I wonder if this isn't just another example of an existing word taking on new meanings until ultimately you'll be able to write anything at all with a series of words chosen at random, the recipient of which will read into it anything he wishes.
That's just nice. I looked up nice. a clever retort. 
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#187900 - 11/20/09 10:06 PM
Re: stunned
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Hi Fal good to hear from you again
But what's nice In this case it'd changed form its original meaning of 'ignorant' to 'stupid'.
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#187916 - 11/22/09 07:57 AM
Re: stunned
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Nice is the poster boy of semantic shift. And somehow, through it all, the English language has survived and is able to clearly express every one of these concepts.
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#187918 - 11/22/09 08:52 AM
Re: stunned
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Nice is the poster boy of semantic shift.
Yes, it is. But, in the case of nice, its older meanings have, more or less, been replaced by its current meaning. There are some other outcomes. At least two off the top of my head: (a) words like set and file that have multiple meanings but are basically from the same older word (etymologically speaking) and (b) words like mole which has multiple meanings and has almost as many etymologies.
1. Hand me the file.
2. Mary was out standing on the mole.
1. and 2. are ambiguous, except that sentences like these are extremely unlikely to occur in complete isolation. 1. depends on whether we are in a metal shop or a doctor's office; 2., more humorously, depends on whether it's uttered by a dermatologist, zoologist, or harbor master. Context, and in speech, repetition and emendation, usually remove any ambiguity from the text.
Next, the argument that polysemy leads to the eventual failure of communication and the destruction of the language is easily proved wrong by looking, however cursorily, at a page in a dictionary (in any language): there are very few entries for words with a single meaning, and those are usually words that a rare or archaic.
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#187930 - 11/22/09 05:08 PM
Re: stunned
[Re: Faldage]
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I see it here in the sense of 'precise, careful, as in a nice distinction' because I choose to see it this way. As it has gone from one meaning to the next and then back again, it can be used as you like it. I know you used it meaning foolish, stupid, but I find two different definitions for it. I still say: "Nice meeting you". nice 1 nice 2
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