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#187364 - 10/18/09 10:11 PM Angloromani
Jackie Offline
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Something else I didn't know about; pretty cool!

link

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#187366 - 10/18/09 10:54 PM Re: Angloromani [Re: Jackie]
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Originally Posted By: Jackie
Something else I didn't know about; pretty cool!

link


it was fun to see how many of their words are recognisably indic still. where did you come across this link?

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#187367 - 10/19/09 01:50 AM Re: Angloromani [Re: latishya]
Zed Offline
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komli fowki
pronunciation ? comely folky?
translation: kind people

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#187371 - 10/19/09 05:56 AM Re: Angloromani [Re: Jackie]
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Yeh. I like the pair of new shoes: terrihaws nevvi

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#187376 - 10/19/09 12:44 PM Re: Angloromani [Re: Jackie]
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Originally Posted By: Jackie
Something else I didn't know about; pretty cool!

link



Interesting. I did know about it. I have a friend living in
Greece who explores all avenues of the ancient Romans and any
word connected with the word or even close to it, and he told
me of this about a year ago. Glad you brought it to the site.

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#187381 - 10/19/09 10:20 PM Re: Angloromani [Re: latishya]
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where did you come across this link? It's in Max's Useful Language Links, over in I&A.

EDIT: I'm sorry, but what is indic, please?

I have a friend living in
Greece who explores all avenues of the ancient Romans and any
word connected with the word or even close to it Hey, that's neat! But...am I crazy, or didn't the ancient Romans speak Latin? And it got shifted into Welsh Gaelic? I ask because to me the two languages do not appear to be similar at all.

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#187384 - 10/19/09 10:45 PM Re: Angloromani [Re: Jackie]
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I'm sorry, but what is indic, please?

Indic is a language group of India. There are two major groups, one is Indo-Iranian (including languages like Sanskrit, Hindi/Urdu, Gujarati, Marathi, Panjabi, etc.) which belongs to Indo-European family, and there is Dravidian (with Tamil, Kannada, Malayalam, and Telegu). These two groups are unrelated. The former are sometimes called Aryan or Indo-Aryan languages, but the terminology is a bit old-fashioned. Indo_Iranian also includes languages like Avestan, Farsi, Pashto, Dari, etc.

Romani (less PC Gypsy) is an Indo-Iranian language. It has little to do with the Romans who spoke an Italic language, Latin.

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#187385 - 10/19/09 11:42 PM Re: Angloromani [Re: zmjezhd]
latishya Offline
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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
[i]

Romani (less PC Gypsy) is an Indo-Iranian language. It has little to do with the Romans who spoke an Italic language, latin.


i see on that list that even things like "ka" for a genitive suffix presist in angloromani. that is a very familiar word and role in hindi.

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#187387 - 10/20/09 06:01 AM Re: Angloromani [Re: Jackie]
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These days you can live in The Hague and explore all the avenues in Louisville. wink

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#187388 - 10/20/09 08:03 AM Re: Angloromani [Re: latishya]
zmjezhd Offline
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"ka" for a genitive suffix

I've always been curious about the origin of -ka, -ke, -ki, which are clitics (or postpositions) that are declined to agree in number and gender with the possessed noun (phrase). I took a look round, and see that they are traced back to Sanskrit participle क्र्त (kRta) 'done, made' > Prakrit kera; cf. Sanskrit कपिक्र्तम् वचनम् (kapikRtaM vacanaM) 'monkey-made speech'. (In my imagination, I had assumed it was some adjectival ending from Sanskrit.)

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