#187288 - 10/14/09 03:25 AM
Do you have anything to eat ?
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stranger
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Hi,
Can any one let me know what "Do you have anything to eat?" refers to? Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ilango.
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#187301 - 10/14/09 12:25 PM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
[Re: Faldage]
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Pooh-Bah
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#187303 - 10/14/09 12:32 PM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
[Re: Faldage]
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#187311 - 10/14/09 09:38 PM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
[Re: AnnaStrophic]
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Yeah. [T]hemself. It's singular. You wouldn't say yourselves with a singular you; why would you say themselves with a singular they?
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#187313 - 10/15/09 02:41 AM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
[Re: tsuwm]
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Pooh-Bah
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Back to the original question:
Can you give us the context of the question please, Ilango?
And Brannie, is that a standard line to say when someone leaves (like God be with you) or are you checking to see if they got their lunch out of the fridge?
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#187318 - 10/15/09 05:18 AM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
[Re: Zed]
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stranger
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Thanks Zed.
A part of the conversation:
Person 1: The students are on strike! Why?
Person 2: About ten days ago, our principal died, and someone else was appointed in her place. The students want the principal’s daughter to become the principal.
Person 1: Your principal’s daughter? How is she qualified? She’s still in school, isn’t she?
Person 2: Hey, when a politician dies, they see to it that his son, daughter or wife takes his place. Nobody talks about qualifications, then.
Person 1: Listen, I’m in no mood to argue. I need my shut-eye. Now, please leave.
Person 2: Do you have anything to eat?
Person 1: LEAVE!
Edited by Ilango (10/15/09 05:21 AM)
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#187319 - 10/15/09 05:45 AM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
[Re: BranShea]
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#187320 - 10/15/09 06:29 AM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
[Re: tsuwm]
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It is not generally accepted as good English, however. [EA]
Do I look like someone who generally accepts? And remember, this is from a dictionary that condones the use of an objective case plural pronoun in the subjective singular.
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#187322 - 10/15/09 07:50 AM
Re: good enough for Moe and theta
[Re: tsuwm]
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Pooh-Bah
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It is not generally accepted as good English, however."Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die." [Deut. 17:5] ( link) There are many examples of they used with singular antecedents. Chaucer, Shakespeare, and Austen used it; even the King James translation of the Bible used it.
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#187323 - 10/15/09 08:11 AM
Re: good enough for Moe and theta
[Re: Ilango]
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Thanks Zed.
A part of the conversation:
Person 1: The students are on strike! Why?
Person 2: About ten days ago, our principal died, and someone else was appointed in her place. The students want the principal’s daughter to become the principal.
Person 1: Your principal’s daughter? How is she qualified? She’s still in school, isn’t she?
Person 2: Hey, when a politician dies, they see to it that his son, daughter or wife takes his place. Nobody talks about qualifications, then.
Person 1: Listen, I’m in no mood to argue. I need my shut-eye. Now, please leave.
Person 2: Do you have anything to eat?
Person 1: LEAVE!
sounds like a normal teenager to me. I don't think it means anything beyond, "ok, I'm done with this conversation now. do you have anything to eat?"
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#187324 - 10/15/09 09:13 AM
Re: good enough for Moe and theta
[Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Person 1: Listen, I’m in no mood to argue. I need my shut-eye. Now, please leave.
Person 2: Do you have anything to eat?
Person 1: LEAVE! It could also be a phrase that should function as a distraction, so as to temper Person 1.'s mood. If so, it did not work since Person 2. is forced to leave. ( I would be pleased to know what "I need my shut-eye" means.)
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#187330 - 10/15/09 01:17 PM
Re: good enough for Moe and theta
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It is not generally accepted as good English, however."Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die." [Deut. 17:5] ( link) There are many examples of they used with singular antecedents. Chaucer, Shakespeare, and Austen used it; even the King James translation of the Bible used it. I didn't read that *particular COED extract as having anything to say against the singular they -- only regarding theyself.
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#187338 - 10/16/09 07:30 AM
Re: good enough for Moe and theta
[Re: tsuwm]
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I didn't read that *particular COED extract as having anything to say against the singular they -- only regarding theyself.
Or either that or "themself", one.
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#187339 - 10/16/09 09:33 AM
Re: good enough for Moe and theta
[Re: zmjezhd]
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newbie
Registered: 01/06/08
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The "not generally accepted as good English" was referring to "themself", not singular "they" in general. Singular "they" is standard English, but "themself" is not standard (yet).
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#187340 - 10/16/09 10:38 AM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
[Re: Jackie]
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I agree with Buffle: Person 2 either is trying to prolong his visit, and/or is genuinely hungry. I miss Buffle's post ( deleted?)  . I agree with your final analyses . But I'm a bit puzzled by this double issue about themself and/or they ,theirselves. A strange melee. I mean Buffle......
Edited by BranShea (10/16/09 10:45 AM)
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#187345 - 10/16/09 07:08 PM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
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#187347 - 10/16/09 11:29 PM
Re: Do you have anything to eat ?
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