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#182928 - 02/25/09 09:29 AM peripatetic - in truespel
tom zurinskas stranger Registered: 02/25/09 Posts: 4 Loc: W Palm Beach area, FL USA	I enjoy this is site. I see it uses "no-name-spell" for phonetics. (I call it this because it has no name as far as I can find out). That notation is useful because it's English friendly with no special symbols. Truespel is as well. It's indicated by a tilde(~). See below peripatetic PRONUNCIATION:(per-uh-puh-TET-ik) As I hear it spoken in truespel notation it's ~pairuputtetik ~pair as in "pair" ~up as in "up" ~ut as in "ut" etc. Note thet stress is first syllable or after a double consonant.
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#182930 - 02/25/09 10:23 AM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: tom zurinskas]
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 9400 Loc: this too shall pass	>Note thet stress is first syllable or after a double consonant. so you pronounce your name zur-ins-KAS?
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#182948 - 02/25/09 06:55 PM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: tom zurinskas]
doc_comfort addict Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 583 Loc: Australia	Originally Posted By: tom zurinskas I enjoy this is site. I see it uses "no-name-spell" for phonetics. (I call it this because it has no name as far as I can find out). That notation is useful because it's English friendly with no special symbols. Truespel is as well. It's indicated by a tilde(~). See below peripatetic PRONUNCIATION:(per-uh-puh-TET-ik) As I hear it spoken in truespel notation it's ~pairuputtetik ~pair as in "pair" ~up as in "up" ~ut as in "ut" etc. Note thet stress is first syllable or after a double consonant. Am I the only one who wants to pronounce it... per-ee-puh-tet-ik (or maybe pe-ree...
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#182949 - 02/25/09 07:27 PM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: doc_comfort]
olly addict Registered: 12/18/06 Posts: 611 Loc: Auckland, New Zealand	Originally Posted By: doc_comfort Am I the only one who wants to pronounce it...per-ee-puh-tet-ik (or maybe pe-ree... Not quite alone, I'd say perry-puh-tet-ik
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#182951 - 02/25/09 08:07 PM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: tom zurinskas]
tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 9400 Loc: this too shall pass	Originally Posted By: tom zurinskas peripatetic PRONUNCIATION:(per-uh-puh-TET-ik) maybe it would help to specify that the 'uh's are meant to be schwas: \'per-ə-pə-'te-tik\ [I can't get a schwa to come out]
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#182952 - 02/25/09 08:40 PM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: tsuwm]
olly addict Registered: 12/18/06 Posts: 611 Loc: Auckland, New Zealand	I can't get a schwa to come out Neither can I, but that would make more sense. Edited by olly (02/25/09 08:43 PM) Edit Reason: made a mess
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#182954 - 02/25/09 10:51 PM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: olly]
doc_comfort addict Registered: 01/18/01 Posts: 583 Loc: Australia	Nope, definitely ee for me. It's much more than a schwa.
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#182955 - 02/25/09 10:53 PM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: tom zurinskas]
olly addict Registered: 12/18/06 Posts: 611 Loc: Auckland, New Zealand	Originally Posted By: tom zurinskas I enjoy this is site. Welkum tue thu forim Taam. Ie hoep yer stae iz laung and fruetfool.
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#182969 - 02/26/09 09:45 AM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: tom zurinskas]
tom zurinskas stranger Registered: 02/25/09 Posts: 4 Loc: W Palm Beach area, FL USA	That's the problem with present phonetics (IPA SAMPA). Not computer friendly. Not English friendly as well. So folks use no-name-spell as a work around. Linguists are not enamored of no-name-spell so they haven't named it. I wouldn't use "per" (which rhymes with purr) to represent the first syllable. As the speaker said it, it was "pair", which I think is the right pronunciation. Actually schwa stands for many sounds so it's not accurate. With truespel I've spelled out all schwas. 63k words are respelled in the truespel.com converter.
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#182970 - 02/26/09 10:18 AM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: tsuwm]
tom zurinskas stranger Registered: 02/25/09 Posts: 4 Loc: W Palm Beach area, FL USA	My name, Tom Zurinskas, as foespeld (phonetically spelled) in truespel is ~Taam Zerrinskis~ as my folks would say it. ~aa as in "Saab" ~er as in "her" ~in as in "in" (stressed after double consonant) ~kis as in "kiss" From my data in truespel book 3, the ~er sound (as in "her") is spelled "er" about 70% of the time.
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#183357 - 03/08/09 08:12 AM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: tom zurinskas]
zmjezhd Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 2270 Loc: R'lyeh	That's the problem with present phonetics (IPA SAMPA). Not computer friendly. Not English friendly as well. So folks use no-name-spell as a work around. Linguists are not enamored of no-name-spell so they haven't named it. Some of us used to use IPA on this board until some change in the software disabled the use of Unicode. I try not to use ad hoc phonetic orthographies because the cause more trouble than they're worth. The problem I have with English-based transcription systems is that they promote weird pronunciations of vowels and consonants that differ from most other languages that use the Latin alphabet. In instances where Unicode IPA is not avilable, I use SAMPA and it works well for me. A third choice would be to name the characters. (I've seen this done in ASCII-only forums where spelling using non-Latin alphabets, e.g., Hebrew). As tsuwm demonstrated, one can talk about schwas without getting the glyph to render on one's screen. (As always, when such like is discussed, I offer the observation that a reform of English orthography is very likely not to occur in our lifetimes.)
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#184658 - 05/05/09 08:23 AM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: zmjezhd]
ParkinT enthusiast Registered: 10/30/06 Posts: 293 Loc: Orlando	Originally Posted By: zmjezhd ... a reform of English orthography is very likely not to occur in our lifetimes.) Sad but true. _________________________ "I am certain there is too much certainty in the world" -Michael Crichton
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#184677 - 05/05/09 10:26 PM Re: peripatetic - in truespel [Re: zmjezhd]
PastorVon member Registered: 12/30/08 Posts: 106 Loc: USA, North Carolina	Originally Posted By: zmjezhd (As always, when such like is discussed, I offer the observation that a reform of English orthography is very likely not to occur in our lifetimes.) I would note, however, that English orthography is constantly undergoing reform and will continue to do so as long as it remains the lingua franca. AWAD itself is the proof of these facts.
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