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#156782 - 03/06/06 11:03 AM Klerisei
afepple Offline
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In wonder in which context you came across the word Klerisei.
Although I am German I have never heard this term before. What I do know, however, is the word Klerus which refers to all the members of the clergy.

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#156783 - 03/06/06 12:39 PM Re: Klerisei
maverick Offline
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Welcome, afepple. Personally I've never seen it before apart from in German. The closest is the word clerisy meaning literati or intellectual elite.

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#156784 - 03/06/06 03:14 PM Re: clerisy
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[Introduced by Coleridge to express a notion no longer associated with the clergy]

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#156785 - 03/06/06 07:51 PM Re: clerisy
texketz Offline
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I suppose I do not find it strange that the same word which refers to the literati is closely allied with the word for clergy, given history; to me it seems there has always been a close alliance between intellectual knowledge and the sacred; I wonder if anyone here has read a book entitled,"Pythagoras' Trousers'? it's a bit of a rant but interesting in its exposition of the religious nature of knowledge. After all, in Western mythology, was that not Eve's greatest sin that she ate of the tree of knowledge?

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#156786 - 03/06/06 08:00 PM Re: clerisy
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[Introduced by Coleridge to express a notion no longer associated with the clergy] Is that why Anu put ...as long as you get your words' worth. ?

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#156787 - 03/06/06 08:09 PM Re: clerisy
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There is consensus among most biblical theologians that the sin of Eve of was not eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge but rather disobedience.

In a little-known pair of verses which were edited out of the Book of Genesis by scribes many centuries ago, the following appears. "And the man said to the woman, the Lord God has commanded that we may freely eat of every tree of the garden but, of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, we may not eat. And the woman answered the man, 'Roolz!? We don't need no steenkin' roolz.'" These verses made it plain that the sin was not the ingestion of the fruit but the decision to disregard the rules which got Eve and her husband in so much trouble.

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#156788 - 03/06/06 08:20 PM Re: roolz
belMarduk Offline
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'Roolz!? We don't need no steenkin' roolz



So Eve was the first AWADer then?

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#156789 - 03/06/06 10:04 PM Re: clerisy
inselpeter Offline
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Quote:

There is consensus among most biblical theologians that the sin of Eve of was not eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge but rather disobedience.

In a little-known pair of verses which were edited out of the Book of Genesis by scribes many centuries ago, the following appears. "And the man said to the woman, the Lord God has commanded that we may freely eat of every tree of the garden but, of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, we may not eat. And the woman answered the man, 'Roolz!? We don't need no steenkin' roolz.'" These verses made it plain that the sin was not the ingestion of the fruit but the decision to disregard the rules which got Eve and her husband in so much trouble.



That, Father Steve, is a can of worms. And coming from a judge, no less!

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#156790 - 03/06/06 11:33 PM Re: clerisy
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That, Father Steve, is a can of worms.

Well, Martin Luther survived a Diet of Worms in 1521 so I suppose I oughta be able to handle it in 2006.

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#156791 - 03/07/06 10:34 AM Re: clerisy
belMarduk Offline
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Don't worry FS, worms is good protein. They tought us that in Air-cadet survival camp. Little tip from me though...if you're in the least bit queasy, you simply slurp 'em down without chewing. It got a few of my squadron through the day.

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