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It's woefully easy to find by googling, but without resorting to that
how many of us know what is the relevance of
Mikazaru, Mizaru, and Mazaru?
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The names looked Japanese, but I never heard them before, and had to search.
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never heard them before, in my recollection, but I have an idea. it'll be fun to see if I figured it out! 
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Good grief, wofa, how do you know these things?? I sure had to LIU, and was flabbergasted. I see now what you mean, and you can hear it from me: I intend to speak about this to a whole lot of people.
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Well, since Jackie looked 'em up, I did, too.
Why didn't you list 'em:
Mizaru, Mikazaru, and Mazaru
???
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Don't listen to those who have looked it up; don't say if you know; and better yet, don't look it up at all.
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What does that leave?
ed: Forget that question - I asked it without thinking first. I don't want to throw a wrench into the works.
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Good grief, wofa, how do you know these things??
'Tain't so much how I know them, Jackie, but when I come across them I am intrigued, and so they stick.
This one came from the title of a lecture (the speaker was clearly trying to be provocative) and really had little to do with the subject. Said speaker related that the three monkeys are depicted carved, actually on the elaborate tomb of a renowned Shogun (he showed a picture). They are the guardians, and their function is to protect the kingdom. The meaning - "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" - has changed over time, having starting as "permit no evil." If they saw or heard anything out of line they were to charge out and extirpate same, a far cry indeed from our present "pretend you don't notice" interpretation.
He also indicated that the names were actually a play on words (really ideograms) all based on the ideogram we would call "-zaru" which means monkey. The attributes (see no, hear no, etc.) actually have slightly different -zaru names, which unfortunately I didn't record.
BTW - are there many words like 'tain't, with two apostrophes ?
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... and I especially liked the hints left in posts from responders. Finally I was able to figure it out my own self.
Meanwhile: BTW - are there many words like 'tain't, with two apostrophes ?
I'm fond of double contractions using y'all: y'all're, y'all'll, etc. Sort of the same branch of the language as 'tain't, i'n't it?
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" 'tain't" you say?
Better than " 'tisn't."
But we're word hounds, doggone it!
Two apostrophes sounds like not much of a challenge.
Let's go for three!!!
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