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#83218 10/11/02 12:35 PM
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There's a nice Christmas image

Or there's my favourite, the Coventry Carol:


Lully, lullay, Thou little tiny Child,
By, by, lully, lullay.

O sisters too, how may we do,
For to preserve this day
This poor Youngling for Whom we sing
By, by, lully, lullay?

Herod the king, in his raging,
Charged he hath this day
His men of might, in his own sight,
All young children to slay.

That woe is me, poor Child for Thee!
And ever morn and day
For Thy parting neither say nor sing,
By, by, lully, lullay.

Lully, lullay, Thou little tiny Child,
By, by, lully, lullay.


http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/c/o/coventry.htm





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Is somebody missing the point here? <eg>


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Is somebody missing the point here?

Not at all. Here's the map - X marks the spot...

It just occurs to me (considering nunclage's point) that Xerxes should probably be pronounced "churcheez" or "jurcheez" rather than (my previous pronunciation ) "gzurkseez".
Edit: Oops, already addressed by the man himself below.. at least if we all agree it should be "zurxeez"

And what about Xavier? "Haveeur" or "Haveeay" (French, I think) or "gzaveeur"?

In other words, good question, jabcka (and greetings )


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Xerxes should probably be pronounced "churcheez" or "jurcheez"

Actively, I think it's a transliteration of the letter xi, so it should be [kserkses].


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Actively, I think

aw, thanks for that - you remembered! Our show opened last week, and the line, "Are you actively serious?" always gets a laugh - I just can't tell if it's a laugh of derision at the weird phrase, or a laugh of delight at my brilliant delivery.


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Probably the latter. Actively, I have added actively, in this context, to my actual use vocabulary.


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so it should be [kserkses]

Well, blow me down if I weren't actively right all along.

So how about Xavier="gsa-vee-ur", hmm?


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'Xactly!


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Heavens, where is Jo? The X form of the cross is called the St. Andrews Cross from the fact that he was said to have been crucified on a cross of that form. Hence, you can always identify St. Andrew in a stained glass window by the X-shaped cross which he is usually depicted with or leaning against.

St. Andrew is, of course, the patron saint of Scotland. Oh, sorry, I forgot -- jmh is English, although resident in Scotland.


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I've also found this:

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/45/4516.html

And its group:

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/45/index.html

Enjoy it.



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