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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread goliard #83049 10/08/02 09:55 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh OP Carpal Tunnel OP wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Goliard ".. meum est propositum in taberna mori..." Any of the wandering students and clerics in medieval England, France, and Germany remembered for their satirical verses and poems in praise of debauchery and against the church and pope. Renegades of no fixed abode, chiefly interested in riotous living, they described themselves as followers of the legendary Bishop Golias. By a series of decrees (from 1227), the church eventually revoked their clerical privileges. Carmina Burana is a collection of 13th-cent. Latin goliard poems and songs; some were translated by J. A. Symonds as Wine, Women, and Song (1884), and some were set in a famous cantata by C. Orff (1937). In the 14th cent. the term came to mean jongleur, or minstrel. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: goliard #83050 10/08/02 10:01 PM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel WhitmanO'Neill Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 4,189 Rio Grande, Cape May County, N... Intriguing, Dr. Bill! I'll have to find a site with some of the poems and lyrics. Do you have a link handy? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: goliard #83051 10/09/02 12:02 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 I got a good link at work but can't seem to find it here. It has all the lyrics. I'll toss it into the mix tomorrow. I've got a book with everything and poetic translations into German, too. There was no music in the original manuscript; they know some of the tunes because there are other settings of them and some have notes referencing tunes of other pieces that we know. Some have even had modern medieval style tunes written for them. You could ask Jackie or the ASp. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: goliard #83052 10/09/02 12:02 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh OP Carpal Tunnel OP wwh Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Here is one URL, with a literal and a metrical translation. If you use just the first line I gave to search, there are quite a few sites. http://ingeb.org/Lieder/meumestp.html Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. (have been... ------  Words from medicine  Beheading words  Meta-words  Words from classical mythology  Animal Safari  Words with unusual etymologies  Eponyms or words derived from p...  Loanwords from German  English as a global language Print Thread Switch to Threaded Mode Show Likes Link Copied to Clipboard View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Website Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary View Profile Private Message Follow User Forum Posts Like Summary Forum Statistics Forums16 Topics13,913 Posts229,328 Members9,182 Most Online3,341 Dec 9th, 2011 Newest Members Ineffable, ddrinnan, TRIALNERRA, befuddledmind, KILL_YOUR_SUV 9,182 Registered Users Who's Online Now 0 members (), 783 guests, and 0 robots. Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod Top Posters(30 Days) wofahulicodoc 29 A C Bowden 15 ddrinnan 1 Top Posters wwh 13,858 Faldage 13,803 Jackie 11,613 tsuwm 10,542 wofahulicodoc 10,539 LukeJavan8 9,916 Buffalo Shrdlu 7,210 AnnaStrophic 6,511 Wordwind 6,296 of troy 5,400

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